[Supras] 57 trim driveability

[cthommes at adelphia.net]

I call "bullshit" from the central coast.

-Craig

---- Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com> wrote: 
> If there was any way to be near YOU, id help..but there are no fast
> supras within 100s of miles of San Francisco, CA.
> 
> 
> Yes, im callin you Norcal MK3 owners out..
> 
> On Wed, Jan 30, 2008 at 9:14 PM, berniek at technicaldevelop.com
> <berniek at technicaldevelop.com> wrote:
> > Jeff:
> >
> >
> >     Thanks for the response.  Well, the consensus now that you have also
> >  "voted" is that its up to me to put more time into learning how to deal
> >  with the change in character of the car.  I gotta get some time at a
> >  track, but the nearest one where there is any chance of getting time is
> >  in Englishtown, NJ, about 50 miles south.  The back roads by Picatinny
> >  Arsenal near my home are just too unforgiving if I lose it:  no
> >  shoulders, but trees and (in some cases) guard rails instead (cops are
> >  there, but rarely).  Unfortunately, NJ is the state with highest
> >  population density, and I'm stuck here due to work and my electronic
> >  design client base.  You are almost correct about 1 bit throttle
> >  resolution, at least to date.  I still have only 600 miles on the
> >  refreshed JDM engine due to residual salt on the roads, lack of time,
> >  and rain.  As the weather gets better I'll take the car to an on-site
> >  client location a day or two per week, also on back roads and only about
> >  10 miles away.  I guess a good way to start to learn is to first counter
> >  the intuitive nature to back off completely at first when starting to
> >  break traction in a straight line.  Cornering can then come later.  Let
> >  me know if you disagree.
> >
> >
> >  Take care.
> >
> >
> >     Bernie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Jeff Mohler wrote:
> >  > Bernie:
> >  >
> >  > Once you learn that on a turbo car you can still accelerate while
> >  > LIFTING the throttle to maintain control and being ahead of the car
> >  > instead of behind it, you'll do better.
> >  >
> >  > I think youre driving with a 1 bit resolution on the throttle, instead
> >  > of a measured response to what the car -will- do.
> >  >
> >  > Trust me..the BIG super many hundreds more HP turbos than what you
> >  > have are hard to drive, not a pea shooter with an upgrade.  ;)
> >  >
> >  > Most issues with driving a challenging car, are the drivers
> >  > fault...dont waste any time or money bringing the car to your
> >  > level..you rise up to its level.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >>     I guess what I'm trying to state is that in a sense, spoolup within
> >  >>  a very small RPM range (2800~3200) coupled with throttle non-linearity
> >  >>  seems almost like an artificial impediment.  Yes, I know it is the
> >  >>  character of the car now ('91 with mods as described), and maintaining
> >  >>  controllability on the edge of a dry pavement drift was much easier
> >  >>  (albeit slower) with my former '90, which was essentially stock.
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>     Ultimately an answer will come out of this, either in terms of
> >  >>  increased learning effort on my part or by some means of driveability
> >  >>  assist, if you will.  As stated, Ford attacked this problem over 40
> >  >>  years ago by throttle linkage based non-linearity introduction when the
> >  >>  Paxton blown 312 CID Y-block V8 was introduced to compete with the Chevy
> >  >>  and Pontiac Rochester constant flow fuel injection system.
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>     Bernie
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
> >  >>
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