[Supras] First gear

[Walker, Brian (Rich. Dist)]

Also don't feed the HP+ after midnight or they'll turn into Gremlins....
 I'm no where near Geoff's knowledge of this stuff but I'll chime in on
my experience. I ran my first set of R4S pads for about 4 years of lots
of daily driving, when I replaced them it was after my first time
driving on a small track (1.1 mi.) as the cold laps glazed them pretty
bad. They still had a good amount of stopping power but not like
originally and I figured they were well beyond the service life I could
ask for.

I've since used these pads on a big track but they wore much quicker,
provided great stopping power but aren't intended for the heat of
prolonged big track use (I also was first learning how to properly brake
which would account for additional wear) I still use them however on the
small track braking from ~95 to 35 and doing 15+ cold laps (full stop
between laps, no cool down) That's a lot to ask from a street pad on a
car this heavy. They are an excellent pad for all around use, good power
when cold, great when warm and dust that doesn't stick.

I've commented on the Raybestos a couple of times before.
Brian

Date: Thu, 3 Jan 2008 13:12:13 -0800
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Subject: Re: [Supras] First gear
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For the street there are a # of choices, I'll cover the main four that
are worth looking at.

1)  Porterfield R4-S
The most popular pad that people click on in my store.  They dont have a
hute tip-in response, and when not worked hard, they are really calm,
yet still work very well.  Just not grabby.  As they warm up, they start
to feed back more and more progressively and develop about
.4 peak friction, good till about 900, and capable of a calm track day,
but they will wear faster as you abuse them harder.  They will never eat
rotors, the dust will never -ever- stick to anything, ever.
Performance pads will dust, its the friendly dust you want, not the
killer stuff.  30-40k on a set of pads is common without any track
use...just street use......


4)  Hawk HP+
This is the infamous pad that TRD repackaged for themselves.  They
compare to the R4S in stopping power, but dust like mad, and the dust is
toxic waste to your wheels.  Never let it sit, NEVER let it get wet.
They'll also eat rotors alive.  But they deliver a ton of tip-in
braking, but dont scale up as you drive harder.  Its a twitchy pad on
the street if you dont like grabby pads.