[Supras] First gear

Jim Jobe jjobe2 at supratech.org
Wed Jan 2 17:53:50 CST 2008


I personally delivered his pistons/rods/crank to the engine
builder last night while I was over there working on the wheel
bearings for my truck and putting together tps wiring for a new
TB on one of the other cars.  Still laughing now?

On Wed, Jan 02, 2008 at 03:37:53PM -0800, Jeff Mohler wrote:
> He beat me to it.
> 
> 
> 
> On Jan 2, 2008 3:37 PM, t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> > LOL!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
> > To: "t72pwrd" <nholden1 at woh.rr.com>
> > Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jeff Mohler"
> > <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>; "Walker, Brian (Rich. Dist)"
> > <Brian.Walker2 at VDOT.Virginia.gov>
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 6:24 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] First gear
> >
> >
> > > Pete?  You out there reading this???
> > >
> > > -Craig
> > >
> > > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> This build is well beyond stock.  GT4294 and ALL supporting mods and lots
> > >> of
> > >> bling and crazy stuff.  Take too long to list it all and it would just
> > >> depress me.
> > >>
> > >> One example: a brand NEW set of TRD cams from the Group A race cars, just
> > >> wish I could find a matching pan and I might sell my accusump.
> > >>
> > >> I'm not going to state my power goals, they're well known to many here
> > >> and
> > >> the resulting mockery from 6 years ago is part of what is motivating this
> > >> build.
> > >>
> > >> ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: "Walker, Brian (Rich. Dist)" <Brian.Walker2 at VDOT.Virginia.gov>
> > >> To: <cthommes at adelphia.net>; "t72pwrd" <nholden1 at woh.rr.com>
> > >> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jeff Mohler"
> > >> <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, January 02, 2008 9:05 AM
> > >> Subject: RE: [Supras] First gear
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> 5 years of immobility? I'm hoping to here about a carbon-ceramic
> > >> retrofit with that kind of delay...
> > >>
> > >> Horrible brakes, just need the right compound. I've been contemplating
> > >> selling the JK BBK kit that was going to go on the car next season.
> > >> Brian
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: cthommes at adelphia.net [mailto:cthommes at adelphia.net]
> > >> Sent: Monday, December 31, 2007 1:25 PM
> > >> To: t72pwrd
> > >> Cc: Supras at supras.com; berniek at technicaldevelop.com; Jeff Mohler;
> > >> Walker, Brian (Rich. Dist)
> > >> Subject: Re: [Supras] First gear
> > >>
> > >> LOL!  What brakes did you go with?
> > >>
> > >> Everyone forgets how horrible the brakes are on these cars, regardless
> > >> of fancypants supermetaleramic pads or cross-drilled this-n-that...
> > >>
> > >> -Craig
> > >>
> > >> ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> > >> > I ran a -60 upgraded CT for a short period of time before other issues
> > >>
> > >> > forced me to part the whole car.  That SOB was a ton of fun, issues
> > >> > were very similar to what Bernie is describing.  Didn't put many miles
> > >>
> > >> > on it, but bang for the buck it was a well spent $450.  Can't comment
> > >> > on longevity, but at that time it made more sense than multiple
> > >> thousands on a single upgrade.
> > >> >
> > >> > Like Bernie has said, the car really comes to life over 3K.  It's
> > >> > really not a bad option to get to 400, again longevity might be an
> > >> > issue, but it is a very cost effective path.
> > >> >
> > >> > I went this path and regretted it, but not all will.  It IS a deadend
> > >> > path but it should get you 400 at the wheels.
> > >> >
> > >> > I just spent more on brakes than most of our cars' are worth.  I'm not
> > >>
> > >> > trying to boast, just want to make it clear that I have a different
> > >> > goal and chose a different path.
> > >> >
> > >> > This path has resulted in an immobile car for 5 years and lots of
> > >> > frustration.
> > >> >
> > >> > Just think about your goals before you decide how to get there.
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> > From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> > >> > To: <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>
> > >> > Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; "Walker,Brian (Rich. Dist)"
> > >> > <Brian.Walker2 at vdot.virginia.gov>
> > >> > Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2007 7:11 PM
> > >> > Subject: Re: [Supras] First gear
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > > The 3K bump is typical for the CT26 housing.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Im waiting for the "broke da turbo" post..youre asking a lot at 20
> > >> > > psi on that thing (manifold boost + loss).
> > >> > >
> > >> > > On Dec 29, 2007 6:07 PM, berniek at technicaldevelop.com
> > >> > > <berniek at technicaldevelop.com> wrote:
> > >> > >> Jim:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>     I don't have any idea how much power the engine is making.
> > >> > >> I'll get it dynoed after 750-1000 miles.  Not clipping the turbine
> > >> > >> but opening up the wastegate port instead may be responsible for
> > >> > >> the explosive onset of torque at 3000 RPM.  But it sometimes will
> > >> > >> start to do the same in second, although it is just a little tire
> > >> > >> hopping at about 4500-5000 RPM.  Suspension is stock.  This car
> > >> > >> will be an INFREQUENT daily driver, so with the exception of brakes
> > >>
> > >> > >> from Jeff in the summer, the suspension, etc. will stay pretty much
> > >>
> > >> > >> as is.  I did scare myself a couple of times.  The GTO was gone 37
> > >> > >> years ago.  The Firebird with the BB Chevy has been in wait of
> > >> > >> exterior restoration for 10 years (including a carburetor rebuild.
> > >>
> > >> > >> Holleys have vertical cork gaskets that shrink like magic.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>     Bernie
> > >> > >>
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