[Supras] Anyone have any issues with the Exide Sub

Jim Jobe jjobe2 at supratech.org
Mon Sep 17 22:12:45 CDT 2007


Very quick way to destroy a lot of electrical parts in the car.
Not recommended.  Just have the d at mned thing tested at another
shop or heck, replace it as we've already told the owner that
it's bad..

On Mon, Sep 17, 2007 at 08:43:13PM -0400, Jeff wrote:
> Mike - alternators for 12 volt batteries need to put out 14 - 14.2 volts to
> keep the battery charged and run the car. As other people have suggested the
> problem is probably not your battery. A quick check if your willing to try
> it is to start the car and while it's running disconnect the NEGATIVE
> battery cable - the car should keep running from the power generated by the
> alternator. If it doesn't (and I don't think it will) it explains why the
> battery keeps going dead - your constantly discharging it because the
> alternator isn't putting out enough juice.
> 
> If the above test results in the car stopping then using your new digital
> meter I would disconnect both battery leads and measure the resistance from
> the negative battery wire to ground and from the positive battery cable to
> where it connects on the alternator - both of these should be zero (at least
> less then 1) ohms. If  it's higher then that then the cable that reads high
> is bad or you have a bad connection somewhere along it's line.
> 
> And just for kicks I'd check to see if the alternator belt was lose or
> worn - if it's too lose it will slip under load and the voltage output will
> be impacted. And while most times a slipping belt makes a squeal I have seen
> them slip without making noise.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> JP
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mike Nikolai" <MNIKOLAI at SHAW.CA>
> To: "Walker, Brian (Rich. Dist)" <Brian.Walker2 at VDOT.Virginia.gov>;
> <bob at hairballcreations.com>; <millenia2000 at hotmail.com>
> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2007 1:55 AM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] Anyone have any issues with the Exide Sub
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the replies folks. I finally got around to installing my new
> > (warranty replacement) Exide battery today.  Upon starting up the car the
> > voltage was 14.2. After running a few minuted, it then dropped down to
> 12.0
> > Volts. Upon bringing up the rpm back up to 3000 at idle, the voltage then
> > jumped back up to 14.0.  I let the car run a few more min and the voltage
> > was at 11.8.
> >
> > I dedided to take it out for a rip on the highway and to pick up a digital
> > volt meter. As suspected, the higher the rpm, the higher the volts were
> > reading, untill it leveled off at 13.2 volts at 100 km/hr.  When I came to
> a
> > stop, the battery was reading 11.5 volts.
> >
> > After I purchased the digital volt meter, I was having difficulty
> obtaining
> > a reading from the battery.  It seems that on some spots on the post, I
> > would get a reading of 3 volts, I move the connectors over a few more
> > millimeters and it reads, 10, then 12.  I was taking the reading from the
> > top of the posts.
> >
> >
> > I replaced my positive connection, and cleaned up the negative terminal.
> Ran
> > the car, same issue.I checked the connections for the negative and
> > everything seemed fine and clean.
> >
> > I am starting to think that the Exide sub zero batteries are just crap.  I
> > can not think of any reason why it should die off that quickly.
> >
> > I will purchase a new and higher end battery with in a few days.  If I
> kill
> > it with in a few short hours then I know that I will replace my negative
> > connectors on the car to eliminate any sort of wiring issue.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Walker, Brian (Rich. Dist)" <Brian.Walker2 at VDOT.Virginia.gov>
> > To: <bob at hairballcreations.com>; <millenia2000 at hotmail.com>
> > Cc: <Supras at supras.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 12:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] Anyone have any issues with the Exide Sub
> >
> >
> > > Sure sounds like some sort of electrical gremlin drawing current. Even
> > > with my little Braille battery I can let the car sit for 2 weeks without
> > > need for a charge, that's about the limit though which is to be expected
> > > for a battery smaller than that on my mower (11 lb.) :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2007 10:24:31 -0400
> > > From: "Bob" <bob at hairballcreations.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [Supras] Anyone have any issues with the Exide Sub
> > > Zero78DT Battery?
> > > To: "'Sean Cavanaugh'" <millenia2000 at hotmail.com>,
> > > <Supras at Supras.com>
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> > >
> > > Have you checked for a battery drain... Sure sounds like one.
> > >
> > > I can't quote numbers but just a small drain can drain a battery in a
> > > couple of days.
> > >
> > > Bob
> > >
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