[Supras] blowoff valve recommendation

cthommes at adelphia.net cthommes at adelphia.net
Thu Nov 15 18:38:03 CST 2007 

That would be an e31 sir.  91 850i 6-spd.  250 ft-lbs of its torque available as low as 1500 RPM.

No wussy 1J stuff here (<-- Supra content).

-Craig

---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote: 
> Did you buy an 850 or an 840?  Those are the only 2 that I occasionally 
> confuse for MKIIIs.
> 
> I always expected that you liked young and fit things, just never expected 
> it to be young and fit MASCULINE things.  Craig, you never cease to surprise 
> me.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe" 
> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> 
> 
> > Huh?  No, it just looks like a mk3.  But not a young, fit mk3... A mk3 in 
> > its old, fat, about-to-OD-on-the-toilet years.
> >
> > -Craig
> >
> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Yeah, but your E31 at least LOOKS like a BMW while mine looks like an
> >> insectoid Volkswagen.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
> >> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe"
> >> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> >>
> >>
> >> > Try an E31, that'll stop your whining about that E30.
> >> >
> >> > -Craig
> >> >
> >> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> That sounds about right.  Damned Nazi and your German shit.  I'd make 
> >> >> fun
> >> >> of
> >> >> you, but I blew the motor in my Cressida and the damned E30 325i with 
> >> >> a
> >> >> 1/4
> >> >> million miles on the clock is still doing fine.  Don't get me started 
> >> >> on
> >> >> the
> >> >> parts cost or ease of repair however.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
> >> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
> >> >> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe"
> >> >> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:29 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> > Nope, instead I bought a bigger, heavier, slower german POS.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > -Craig
> >> >> >
> >> >> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> Oh Lord, here we go again;-)
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> Ever get that rebadged mustang fixed?
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> >> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
> >> >> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
> >> >> >> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe"
> >> >> >> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:14 PM
> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> > Fixed that spelling error for you:
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> Ah, OK.  I was running stock ECU, VPC and 1st gen AFC.  No 
> >> >> >> >> kidding
> >> >> >> >> it
> >> >> >> >> was
> >> >> >> >> a
> >> >> >> >> long time ago.  Good times!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> > Certainly not the case now...the cars or you maturing.  LOL!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> I'm sure I could find SOMEBODY to attest to my masturbation, 
> >> >> >> >> just
> >> >> >> >> not
> >> >> >> >> sure who
> >> >> >> >> at this point!
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> >> >> From: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> >> >> >> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
> >> >> >> >> Cc: <b2nice84 at aol.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>;
> >> >> >> >> <Supras at supras.com>
> >> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:22 PM
> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Actually I was noting the time when I had the stock AFM
> >> >> >> >> > and thus also the stock ECU.  And, amazingly, I had a stock
> >> >> >> >> > turbo then too.  It was pushing 13-15psi.  That was a long
> >> >> >> >> > time ago for both of us.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > No ill effects, not even a backfire from it.
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > Certainly not the case now...the cars or you maturing.  LOL!
> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:16:09PM -0500, t72pwrd wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Option B with HKS SSQV vented to atmosphere worked for me as
> >> >> >> >> >> well.
> >> >> >> >> >> My
> >> >> >> >> >> turbo was a -60 trim at 21PSI at the time.  HKS valve was
> >> >> >> >> >> located
> >> >> >> >> >> where
> >> >> >> >> >> the
> >> >> >> >> >> passenger side foglight WAS.  Amusing as hell to see people 
> >> >> >> >> >> jump
> >> >> >> >> >> when
> >> >> >> >> >> I
> >> >> >> >> >> shifted.  Of course this was a damned long time ago and I was
> >> >> >> >> >> much
> >> >> >> >> >> younger
> >> >> >> >> >> then.  Some people even say I've matured ;-0
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> Jim is also too modest to say he's running a turbo quite a 
> >> >> >> >> >> bit
> >> >> >> >> >> bigger
> >> >> >> >> >> than
> >> >> >> >> >> any of the ones discussed so far.  SP61 or 63 IIRC.
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> >> >> >> >> From: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> >> >> >> >> >> To: <b2nice84 at aol.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> Cc: <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; <Supras at supras.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:08 PM
> >> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >Option B has worked very well for many, for a long time.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >I've also run just the HKS SSQV with no ill effects.
> >> >> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> >> >> >On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:49:19PM -0500, b2nice84 at aol.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> >>The below options is using a blow off valve.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Option A
> >> >> >> >> >> >>The HKS SSQV has an adapter you can add to be able to 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>redirect
> >> >> >> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >>air
> >> >> >> >> >> >>back into the accordion hose.? But of coarse it costs some
> >> >> >> >> >> >>money
> >> >> >> >> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >> >> >> >>little of thinking to install.? Regardless it is doable and
> >> >> >> >> >> >>you
> >> >> >> >> >> >>will
> >> >> >> >> >> >>lose
> >> >> >> >> >> >>the BOV sound if you care about it.?
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Option B
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Another way (this is what I am doing) is to keep the stock
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Bypass
> >> >> >> >> >> >>valve
> >> >> >> >> >> >>in and install the blow-off valve at the same time 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>(blow-off
> >> >> >> >> >> >>valve
> >> >> >> >> >> >>air
> >> >> >> >> >> >>is
> >> >> >> >> >> >>released into the atmosphere).? It eliminated the bogging. 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>The
> >> >> >> >> >> >>stock
> >> >> >> >> >> >>bypass valve keeps the AFM happy and the blowoff valve let 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>out
> >> >> >> >> >> >>all
> >> >> >> >> >> >>the
> >> >> >> >> >> >>extra air out that the stock bypass valve could not (over 8
> >> >> >> >> >> >>psi)
> >> >> >> >> >> >>when I
> >> >> >> >> >> >>am boosting over stock.?
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>I feel the stock bypass valve works great when you are
> >> >> >> >> >> >>boosting
> >> >> >> >> >> >>stock.?
> >> >> >> >> >> >>But when boosting more then stock I feel it needs a little
> >> >> >> >> >> >>more
> >> >> >> >> >> >>air
> >> >> >> >> >> >>out
> >> >> >> >> >> >>that the stock bypass valve will not allow.? That is why I
> >> >> >> >> >> >>used
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Option
> >> >> >> >> >> >>B.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Now I am waiting for Jeff to make a comment on how wrong it 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>is
> >> >> >> >> >> >>for
> >> >> >> >> >> >>me
> >> >> >> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> >> >> >>do this.? hehe
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Brandon
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
> >> >> >> >> >> >>From: berniek at technicaldevelop.com
> >> >> >> >> >> >><berniek at technicaldevelop.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>To: Supras at supras.com <Supras at supras.com>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 5:43 pm
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Subject: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>For the last two weeks I've been getting my jollies by 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>driving
> >> >> >> >> >> >>my
> >> >> >> >> >> >>'91
> >> >> >> >> >> >>with 550cc injectors, 57 trim turbo, Walbro, Lexus, 3" 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>exhaust
> >> >> >> >> >> >>from
> >> >> >> >> >> >>turbo back, etc.  However, a disturbing boing-oing-oing 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>sound
> >> >> >> >> >> >>has
> >> >> >> >> >> >>persisted from the air intake when closing the throttle 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>under
> >> >> >> >> >> >>15
> >> >> >> >> >> >>PSI
> >> >> >> >> >> >>boost.  Spoke to James at Performance Techniques about 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>this,
> >> >> >> >> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >> >>he
> >> >> >> >> >> >>says
> >> >> >> >> >> >>it is compressor surge, which I suspected.  From all I have
> >> >> >> >> >> >>read,
> >> >> >> >> >> >>using
> >> >> >> >> >> >>the Bosch Porsche right angle blowoff valve should have 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>been
> >> >> >> >> >> >>sufficient,
> >> >> >> >> >> >>but it is not.  I get the sound even at low boost.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>So I'm looking for recommendations as to which BOV to use. 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>I
> >> >> >> >> >> >>would
> >> >> >> >> >> >>like
> >> >> >> >> >> >>to recirculate to the accordion hose, even if I need to cut 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>a
> >> >> >> >> >> >>hole
> >> >> >> >> >> >>in
> >> >> >> >> >> >>it
> >> >> >> >> >> >>and use curved, clamped large washer-like pieces on the 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>inside
> >> >> >> >> >> >>and
> >> >> >> >> >> >>outside to provide a large bung for the BOV discharge.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>BernieK.  PS:  Arlene and others were right.  There is 
> >> >> >> >> >> >>never
> >> >> >> >> >> >>enough
> >> >> >> >> >> >>power even if you can "walk" the tires in second gear.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Starting
> >> >> >> >> >> >>to
> >> >> >> >> >> >>wonder what to do next for more HP.
> >> >> >> >> >> >>
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> >> >> >> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________________________________________________
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free
> >> >> >> >> >> >>AOL
> >> >> >> >> >> >>Mail! -
> >> >> >> >> >> >>http://mail.aol.com
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