[Supras] blowoff valve recommendation

t72pwrd nholden1 at woh.rr.com
Thu Nov 15 18:28:17 CST 2007


Did you buy an 850 or an 840?  Those are the only 2 that I occasionally 
confuse for MKIIIs.

I always expected that you liked young and fit things, just never expected 
it to be young and fit MASCULINE things.  Craig, you never cease to surprise 
me.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe" 
<jjobe2 at supratech.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation


> Huh?  No, it just looks like a mk3.  But not a young, fit mk3... A mk3 in 
> its old, fat, about-to-OD-on-the-toilet years.
>
> -Craig
>
> ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> Yeah, but your E31 at least LOOKS like a BMW while mine looks like an
>> insectoid Volkswagen.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
>> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
>> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe"
>> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 1:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
>>
>>
>> > Try an E31, that'll stop your whining about that E30.
>> >
>> > -Craig
>> >
>> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> That sounds about right.  Damned Nazi and your German shit.  I'd make 
>> >> fun
>> >> of
>> >> you, but I blew the motor in my Cressida and the damned E30 325i with 
>> >> a
>> >> 1/4
>> >> million miles on the clock is still doing fine.  Don't get me started 
>> >> on
>> >> the
>> >> parts cost or ease of repair however.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
>> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
>> >> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe"
>> >> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
>> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 8:29 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Nope, instead I bought a bigger, heavier, slower german POS.
>> >> >
>> >> > -Craig
>> >> >
>> >> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >> Oh Lord, here we go again;-)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Ever get that rebadged mustang fixed?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> From: <cthommes at adelphia.net>
>> >> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
>> >> >> Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; "Jim Jobe"
>> >> >> <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 7:14 PM
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > Fixed that spelling error for you:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > ---- t72pwrd <nholden1 at woh.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Ah, OK.  I was running stock ECU, VPC and 1st gen AFC.  No 
>> >> >> >> kidding
>> >> >> >> it
>> >> >> >> was
>> >> >> >> a
>> >> >> >> long time ago.  Good times!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> > Certainly not the case now...the cars or you maturing.  LOL!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I'm sure I could find SOMEBODY to attest to my masturbation, 
>> >> >> >> just
>> >> >> >> not
>> >> >> >> sure who
>> >> >> >> at this point!
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> >> From: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
>> >> >> >> To: "t72pwrd" <NHOLDEN1 at woh.rr.com>
>> >> >> >> Cc: <b2nice84 at aol.com>; <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>;
>> >> >> >> <Supras at supras.com>
>> >> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2007 6:22 PM
>> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Actually I was noting the time when I had the stock AFM
>> >> >> >> > and thus also the stock ECU.  And, amazingly, I had a stock
>> >> >> >> > turbo then too.  It was pushing 13-15psi.  That was a long
>> >> >> >> > time ago for both of us.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > No ill effects, not even a backfire from it.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Certainly not the case now...the cars or you maturing.  LOL!
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > On Wed, Nov 14, 2007 at 06:16:09PM -0500, t72pwrd wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> Option B with HKS SSQV vented to atmosphere worked for me as
>> >> >> >> >> well.
>> >> >> >> >> My
>> >> >> >> >> turbo was a -60 trim at 21PSI at the time.  HKS valve was
>> >> >> >> >> located
>> >> >> >> >> where
>> >> >> >> >> the
>> >> >> >> >> passenger side foglight WAS.  Amusing as hell to see people 
>> >> >> >> >> jump
>> >> >> >> >> when
>> >> >> >> >> I
>> >> >> >> >> shifted.  Of course this was a damned long time ago and I was
>> >> >> >> >> much
>> >> >> >> >> younger
>> >> >> >> >> then.  Some people even say I've matured ;-0
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> Jim is also too modest to say he's running a turbo quite a 
>> >> >> >> >> bit
>> >> >> >> >> bigger
>> >> >> >> >> than
>> >> >> >> >> any of the ones discussed so far.  SP61 or 63 IIRC.
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> >> >> >> >> From: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
>> >> >> >> >> To: <b2nice84 at aol.com>
>> >> >> >> >> Cc: <berniek at technicaldevelop.com>; <Supras at supras.com>
>> >> >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2007 11:08 PM
>> >> >> >> >> Subject: Re: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >Option B has worked very well for many, for a long time.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >I've also run just the HKS SSQV with no ill effects.
>> >> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> >> >On Tue, Nov 13, 2007 at 09:49:19PM -0500, b2nice84 at aol.com
>> >> >> >> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> >>The below options is using a blow off valve.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Option A
>> >> >> >> >> >>The HKS SSQV has an adapter you can add to be able to 
>> >> >> >> >> >>redirect
>> >> >> >> >> >>the
>> >> >> >> >> >>air
>> >> >> >> >> >>back into the accordion hose.? But of coarse it costs some
>> >> >> >> >> >>money
>> >> >> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >> >> >>a
>> >> >> >> >> >>little of thinking to install.? Regardless it is doable and
>> >> >> >> >> >>you
>> >> >> >> >> >>will
>> >> >> >> >> >>lose
>> >> >> >> >> >>the BOV sound if you care about it.?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Option B
>> >> >> >> >> >>Another way (this is what I am doing) is to keep the stock
>> >> >> >> >> >>Bypass
>> >> >> >> >> >>valve
>> >> >> >> >> >>in and install the blow-off valve at the same time 
>> >> >> >> >> >>(blow-off
>> >> >> >> >> >>valve
>> >> >> >> >> >>air
>> >> >> >> >> >>is
>> >> >> >> >> >>released into the atmosphere).? It eliminated the bogging. 
>> >> >> >> >> >>The
>> >> >> >> >> >>stock
>> >> >> >> >> >>bypass valve keeps the AFM happy and the blowoff valve let 
>> >> >> >> >> >>out
>> >> >> >> >> >>all
>> >> >> >> >> >>the
>> >> >> >> >> >>extra air out that the stock bypass valve could not (over 8
>> >> >> >> >> >>psi)
>> >> >> >> >> >>when I
>> >> >> >> >> >>am boosting over stock.?
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>I feel the stock bypass valve works great when you are
>> >> >> >> >> >>boosting
>> >> >> >> >> >>stock.?
>> >> >> >> >> >>But when boosting more then stock I feel it needs a little
>> >> >> >> >> >>more
>> >> >> >> >> >>air
>> >> >> >> >> >>out
>> >> >> >> >> >>that the stock bypass valve will not allow.? That is why I
>> >> >> >> >> >>used
>> >> >> >> >> >>Option
>> >> >> >> >> >>B.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Now I am waiting for Jeff to make a comment on how wrong it 
>> >> >> >> >> >>is
>> >> >> >> >> >>for
>> >> >> >> >> >>me
>> >> >> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >> >> >>do this.? hehe
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Brandon
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>-----Original Message-----
>> >> >> >> >> >>From: berniek at technicaldevelop.com
>> >> >> >> >> >><berniek at technicaldevelop.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>To: Supras at supras.com <Supras at supras.com>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Sent: Tue, 13 Nov 2007 5:43 pm
>> >> >> >> >> >>Subject: [Supras] blowoff valve recommendation
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>For the last two weeks I've been getting my jollies by 
>> >> >> >> >> >>driving
>> >> >> >> >> >>my
>> >> >> >> >> >>'91
>> >> >> >> >> >>with 550cc injectors, 57 trim turbo, Walbro, Lexus, 3" 
>> >> >> >> >> >>exhaust
>> >> >> >> >> >>from
>> >> >> >> >> >>turbo back, etc.  However, a disturbing boing-oing-oing 
>> >> >> >> >> >>sound
>> >> >> >> >> >>has
>> >> >> >> >> >>persisted from the air intake when closing the throttle 
>> >> >> >> >> >>under
>> >> >> >> >> >>15
>> >> >> >> >> >>PSI
>> >> >> >> >> >>boost.  Spoke to James at Performance Techniques about 
>> >> >> >> >> >>this,
>> >> >> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >> >> >>he
>> >> >> >> >> >>says
>> >> >> >> >> >>it is compressor surge, which I suspected.  From all I have
>> >> >> >> >> >>read,
>> >> >> >> >> >>using
>> >> >> >> >> >>the Bosch Porsche right angle blowoff valve should have 
>> >> >> >> >> >>been
>> >> >> >> >> >>sufficient,
>> >> >> >> >> >>but it is not.  I get the sound even at low boost.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>So I'm looking for recommendations as to which BOV to use. 
>> >> >> >> >> >>I
>> >> >> >> >> >>would
>> >> >> >> >> >>like
>> >> >> >> >> >>to recirculate to the accordion hose, even if I need to cut 
>> >> >> >> >> >>a
>> >> >> >> >> >>hole
>> >> >> >> >> >>in
>> >> >> >> >> >>it
>> >> >> >> >> >>and use curved, clamped large washer-like pieces on the 
>> >> >> >> >> >>inside
>> >> >> >> >> >>and
>> >> >> >> >> >>outside to provide a large bung for the BOV discharge.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>Any and all suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>BernieK.  PS:  Arlene and others were right.  There is 
>> >> >> >> >> >>never
>> >> >> >> >> >>enough
>> >> >> >> >> >>power even if you can "walk" the tires in second gear.
>> >> >> >> >> >>Starting
>> >> >> >> >> >>to
>> >> >> >> >> >>wonder what to do next for more HP.
>> >> >> >> >> >>
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>> >> >> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________________________________________________
>> >> >> >> >> >>Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free
>> >> >> >> >> >>AOL
>> >> >> >> >> >>Mail! -
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