[Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay

supraman88 supraman88 at verizon.net
Thu Mar 1 14:55:00 CST 2007


Why go through all this? Get a set of dual-piston calipers and rotors
and pads from Brembo or Endless!

This guy's up to $455 for about 1/2 the parts you'll need to do the job
correctly, and the rotors are all rusty. You can get the parts he's
selling at CarQuest or AutoZone for less, or go to a junkyard. Except in
Mass...they aren't supposed to sell brake parts, so I flip the guy a $20
and sneak them out...




Phil L. wrote:
> you can bring it back a bit by using the mk4 lower control arm as 
> well... but that will throw in even more castor...
>
> my setup is mk4 lower wishbone, rotor, caliper and steering knuckle...
>
> you then wind on as much neg camber and pos castor and you can... and if 
> you can, put a spacer in the upper wishbone assembly to ever so slightly 
> reduce the positive castor (it's not to change suspension angles really, 
> it's to stop the upper wishbone foulling on the strut... they come very 
> close but don't appear to touch without it, but i put one in just in case)
>
> the abs doesn't work anymore (error light only comes on at 75 kmh or so, 
> so i beleive it's because the sensors are throwing out signals at 
> different rates... either that or my dodgy splicing means the front 
> sensor signals get blurred at higher speeds....)
>
> anyway.... handling with the new suspension angles is pretty decent, i 
> did have to wind the tie rods in as far as they'd go, but other than 
> than most of the settings being on the limit, it's not too bad...
>
> Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist) wrote:
>   
>> Thanks for clarifying Jim, I hadn't heard of anyone trying the whole
>> knuckle. I wonder if the camber is way off on the neg. or pos. side? Either
>> way if the caster is too far off I wouldn't want to use it.
>> Brian W 
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jim Jobe [mailto:jjobe2 at supratech.org] 
>> Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:03 AM
>> To: Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist)
>> Cc: 'supras at supras.com'; 'myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net'
>> Subject: Re: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay
>>
>>
>> It is WELL known that the mk4 knuckles on the mk3 will throw caster and
>> camber out so much it cannot be adjusted back in to spec.
>> I also seem to recall it placed the wheel off center in the wheel well
>> (probably why caster is off).
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:45:55AM -0500, Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist) wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Where are the dust shields? I'd like to hear more on this, it makes 
>>> sense the upper/lower ball joints would fit since I've been told 
>>> Toyota uses a proprietary taper so I'd assume it's the same for most 
>>> of their applications but how different is the geometry? I wonder if 
>>> you'd be able to get the alignment to an acceptable range with the 
>>> different knuckle? They also look a far amount smaller than the 
>>> stockers so they're probably a bit lighter but I don't know why the 
>>> tie rod ends wouldn't work (maybe different angle on the mk4?)
>>>
>>> Those pads alone sell for over $200 but I can't imagine ever setting 
>>> all that up to where it works and not using it. It's a great 
>>> alternative if you could get it to work without binding and get the
>>>     
>>>       
>> alignment dialed in.
>>   
>>     
>>> Just my $.02.
>>> Brian W-88T
>>>
>>>
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:55:44 -0500
>>> From: "Ken" <myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net>
>>> Subject: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay
>>> To: "Supra List" <supras at supras.com>
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>>> Apparently it is possible to do this swap of the whole hub & caliper? 
>>> I can 't imagine it would be too easy considering he mentions having 
>>> to alter the length of the tie rods...
>>>
>>> Any input?
>>>
>>> Ken
>>>
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