[Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay

[Arnout v.d. Kamp]

yeah I friend of mine wrote that on his gravestone

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
To: "Phil L." <fil at arach.net.au>
Cc: <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay


> What an effort for better brakes...did you consider different pad 
> compounds
> first?
>
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> On 3/1/07, Phil L. <fil at arach.net.au> wrote:
>>
>> you can bring it back a bit by using the mk4 lower control arm as
>> well... but that will throw in even more castor...
>>
>> my setup is mk4 lower wishbone, otor, caliper and steering knuckle...
>>
>> you then wind on as much neg camber and pos castor and you can... and if
>> you can, put a spacer in the upper wishbone assembly to ever so slightly
>> reduce the positive castor (it's not to change suspension angles really,
>> it's to stop the upper wishbone foulling on the strut... they come very
>> close but don't appear to touch without it, but i put one in just in 
>> case)
>>
>> the abs doesn't work anymore (error light only comes on at 75 kmh or so,
>> so i beleive it's because the sensors are throwing out signals at
>> different rates... either that or my dodgy splicing means the front
>> sensor signals get blurred at higher speeds....)
>>
>> anyway.... handling with the new suspension angles is pretty decent, i
>> did have to wind the tie rods in as far as they'd go, but other than
>> than most of the settings being on the limit, it's not too bad...
>>
>> Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist) wrote:
>> > Thanks for clarifying Jim, I hadn't heard of anyone trying the whole
>> > knuckle. I wonder if the camber is way off on the neg. or pos. side?
>> Either
>> > way if the caster is too far off I wouldn't want to use it.
>> > Brian W
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Jim Jobe [mailto:jjobe2 at supratech.org]
>> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:03 AM
>> > To: Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist)
>> > Cc: 'supras at supras.com'; 'myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net'
>> > Subject: Re: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay
>> >
>> >
>> > It is WELL known that the mk4 knuckles on the mk3 will throw caster and
>> > camber out so much it cannot be adjusted back in to spec.
>> > I also seem to recall it placed the wheel off center in the wheel well
>> > (probably why caster is off).
>> >
>> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:45:55AM -0500, Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist)
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Where are the dust shields? I'd like to hear more on this, it makes
>> >> sense the upper/lower ball joints would fit since I've been told
>> >> Toyota uses a proprietary taper so I'd assume it's the same for most
>> >> of their applications but how different is the geometry? I wonder if
>> >> you'd be able to get the alignment to an acceptable range with the
>> >> different knuckle? They also look a far amount smaller than the
>> >> stockers so they're probably a bit lighter but I don't know why the
>> >> tie rod ends wouldn't work (maybe different angle on the mk4?)
>> >>
>> >> Those pads alone sell for over $200 but I can't imagine ever setting
>> >> all that up to where it works and not using it. It's a great
>> >> alternative if you could get it to work without binding and get the
>> >>
>> > alignment dialed in.
>> >
>> >> Just my $.02.
>> >> Brian W-88T
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Message: 1
>> >> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:55:44 -0500
>> >> From: "Ken" <myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net>
>> >> Subject: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay
>> >> To: "Supra List" <supras at supras.com>
>> >> Message-ID: <017201c75856$273b06c0$030aa8c0 at creekgov.local>
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>> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspage
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>> >> TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250087348596&rd=1&rd=1
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>> >> Apparently it is possible to do this swap of the whole hub & caliper?
>> >> I can 't imagine it would be too easy considering he mentions having
>> >> to alter the length of the tie rods...
>> >>
>> >> Any input?
>> >>
>> >> Ken
>> >>
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