[Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay

Jeff Mohler speedtoys.racing at gmail.com
Thu Mar 1 10:55:46 CST 2007


What an effort for better brakes...did you consider different pad compounds
first?



On 3/1/07, Phil L. <fil at arach.net.au> wrote:
>
> you can bring it back a bit by using the mk4 lower control arm as
> well... but that will throw in even more castor...
>
> my setup is mk4 lower wishbone, otor, caliper and steering knuckle...
>
> you then wind on as much neg camber and pos castor and you can... and if
> you can, put a spacer in the upper wishbone assembly to ever so slightly
> reduce the positive castor (it's not to change suspension angles really,
> it's to stop the upper wishbone foulling on the strut... they come very
> close but don't appear to touch without it, but i put one in just in case)
>
> the abs doesn't work anymore (error light only comes on at 75 kmh or so,
> so i beleive it's because the sensors are throwing out signals at
> different rates... either that or my dodgy splicing means the front
> sensor signals get blurred at higher speeds....)
>
> anyway.... handling with the new suspension angles is pretty decent, i
> did have to wind the tie rods in as far as they'd go, but other than
> than most of the settings being on the limit, it's not too bad...
>
> Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist) wrote:
> > Thanks for clarifying Jim, I hadn't heard of anyone trying the whole
> > knuckle. I wonder if the camber is way off on the neg. or pos. side?
> Either
> > way if the caster is too far off I wouldn't want to use it.
> > Brian W
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Jim Jobe [mailto:jjobe2 at supratech.org]
> > Sent: Monday, February 26, 2007 11:03 AM
> > To: Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist)
> > Cc: 'supras at supras.com'; 'myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net'
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay
> >
> >
> > It is WELL known that the mk4 knuckles on the mk3 will throw caster and
> > camber out so much it cannot be adjusted back in to spec.
> > I also seem to recall it placed the wheel off center in the wheel well
> > (probably why caster is off).
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 26, 2007 at 08:45:55AM -0500, Walker, Brian1 (Rich. Dist)
> wrote:
> >
> >> Where are the dust shields? I'd like to hear more on this, it makes
> >> sense the upper/lower ball joints would fit since I've been told
> >> Toyota uses a proprietary taper so I'd assume it's the same for most
> >> of their applications but how different is the geometry? I wonder if
> >> you'd be able to get the alignment to an acceptable range with the
> >> different knuckle? They also look a far amount smaller than the
> >> stockers so they're probably a bit lighter but I don't know why the
> >> tie rod ends wouldn't work (maybe different angle on the mk4?)
> >>
> >> Those pads alone sell for over $200 but I can't imagine ever setting
> >> all that up to where it works and not using it. It's a great
> >> alternative if you could get it to work without binding and get the
> >>
> > alignment dialed in.
> >
> >> Just my $.02.
> >> Brian W-88T
> >>
> >>
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 15:55:44 -0500
> >> From: "Ken" <myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net>
> >> Subject: [Supras] MKIV front brake conversion on eBay
> >> To: "Supra List" <supras at supras.com>
> >> Message-ID: <017201c75856$273b06c0$030aa8c0 at creekgov.local>
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> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=015&sspage
> >> name=S
> >> TRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=&item=250087348596&rd=1&rd=1
> >>
> >> Apparently it is possible to do this swap of the whole hub & caliper?
> >> I can 't imagine it would be too easy considering he mentions having
> >> to alter the length of the tie rods...
> >>
> >> Any input?
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
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