[Supras] Hopefully useful ARP head stud information
berniek at technicaldevelop.com
berniek at technicaldevelop.com
Sun Jul 29 22:54:25 CDT 2007
Jim:
Thanks for the tip. At 80 lb-ft, I went for a 1/2" drive socket
long before the time to install the ARP studs came up. By buying the
44444, I was able to tailor the size and steps in the size to exactly
what was needed. The 3/8" drive version is no doubt fine for ARP stud
use. However, I bought the 1/2" socket knowing that I would need to
machine it, and would not break reducers. Many of us spend thousands of
dollars on our precious MkIIIs. A small lathe with at least minimal
tooling will cost less than $1500 and will be found to be invaluable for
so many tasks, including light milling with a milling attachment (check
ebay).
Bernie
Jim Jobe wrote:
> Grinding the socket down, yeah, BTDT.
>
> Try Craftsman 44418, 14mm, 3/8 drive, 12 point. Fits in with
> out any machining. Buy two in case one breaks. I haven't
> broken a single one. Get two 3/8 to 1/2 reducers too. I've
> destroyed a number of them, but never on the head studs.
>
> On Sun, Jul 29, 2007 at 06:55:40PM -0400, berniek at technicaldevelop.com wrote:
>
>> During installation of a Cometic HG, I learned a few things which may be
>> of assistance to those who have not dealt with ARP head studs before:
>>
>> 1. Always thread the studs into the block with the 3/16 hex depression
>> in the top. That way they can be removed if needed.
>>
>> 2. The socket to fit the nuts requires machining unless there exists a
>> special socket I could not find. I got a Sears 12 point 14 mm 1/2"
>> drive socket, number 44444, the heaviest they had. To clear the bucket
>> housings, camshafts and center valley wall, the socket had to be
>> machined as follows:
>>
>> a. For the first .740" of the length starting from the nut end, reduce
>> the diameter to .765". That involves removal of about .015" to.020"
>> from the business end of the socket. It will be necessary to use a
>> carbide bit in the lathe. The socket is of high quality, made from
>> tough steel. The surface finish will not be spectacular, but such is
>> the price of machining hard steel without more involved finishing
>> techniques.
>>
>> b. Then reduce the diameter towards the drive end to .735" for a
>> further length of 1.650". So the total machined length from the nut end
>> will be 1.650' + .740" = 2.390". That reduced diameter is to clear the
>> camshafts and center valley wall. There is plenty of meat in the socket
>> wall once above the 12 point end, so no real weakness will exist. Do
>> not go further back in machining or you will cut through to the corners
>> of the 1/2" drive recess.
>>
>> 3. Set the camshafts both so the TDC marks are upwards. All nuts will
>> then be accessible past camshaft bumps, hex sections, etc.
>>
>> 4. The washers MUST be installed on the head surface before the studs
>> are installed. They will not fit the studs afterwards due to the bucket
>> housing wall thickness.
>>
>> 5. Using the moly lube supplied by ARP, torquing to 80 lb-ft. was no
>> problem, done in four stages. The socket held up perfectly.
>>
>> 6. If you have had the head and rear timing cover decked (necessary
>> with any MHG, the ends of the gasket pieces will stick up above the head
>> surface. They must be cut off flush since the gasket covers that junction.
>>
>> 7. It may be possible to carry the nut end diameter to .765" before
>> carrying it back to .740" diameter section However, that will weaken
>> the socket at its must vulnerable point, the nut end where the wall is
>> thinnest.
>>
>> Hope this of some use.
>>
>> BernieK
>>
>>
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