[Supras] E85 retrofit

supraman88 supraman88 at verizon.net
Wed Sep 6 07:34:30 CDT 2006


Can't agree with this statement.

In 1980 I bought a brand-new Corolla SR-5, and was living in New Hampshire 
at the time. The local BP station was selling Gasahol, which was either 15 
or 20% ethanol mix. Running Premium, I was getting ~34 MPG, and ran the car 
on Gasahol for a full year.

The car went 245,000 miles with a water pump and the E-Brake cable as the 
only actual repairs that had to be done to the car.
No burned rings, no burned pistons, etc that everyone told me would happen 
from running Gasahol.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
To: "Jim Thomann" <list1 at thomann.no-ip.com>
Cc: <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Supras] E85 retrofit


> It has less energy in a given volume, and yes, you need to pump up
> compression to make up for it.
>
> I wouldnt touch it in a car not designed for it, far too much to loose.
>
>
>
> On 9/5/06, Jim Thomann <list1 at thomann.no-ip.com> wrote:
>> I agree.  Not many people will use E85 when it becomes more available if
>> the price/performance stays so poor.
>>
>> I don't know what E85 typically come in at, but it does have a higher
>> octane rating, right?  Can't that be used by design or tuning to make up
>> some of the performance gap?
>>
>> What about lines and seals?  Will the internals hold up?
>>
>> Brandon wrote:
>>  From what i have heard and found through minimal research.   Is that
>> E85 has
>> to run at a far richer a/f, which means worse MPG than you get now, and
>> will usually require larger fuel injectors to accomadate this.   I was
>> going to try it on the Honda i had for a winter beater last year, since
>> the ECU's can be easily chipped, and i can burn a chip w/ two programs
>> and switch between them w/ a switch it would have been perfect.  Problem
>> was there was only one gas station i found in town that carried it,(this
>> is in NEBRASK!!! we have plenty of damn corn here!)  and it was still
>> expensive....
>> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2006-02-14-e85-usat_x.htm
>> for example.  Thats when i quit thinking about it.
>>
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