[Supras] E85 retrofit

[supraman88]

Massachusetts REQUIRES a minimum of 10% ethanol in the gas.
I was actually getting pretty good mileage off it, but I burn Premium 
anyway...


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brandon" <fstrnldr at tconl.com>
To: "Jim Thomann" <list1 at thomann.no-ip.com>; <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 06, 2006 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Supras] E85 retrofit


> >From what i have heard and found through minimal research.   Is that E85 
> >has
> to run at a far richer a/f, which means worse MPG than you get now, and 
> will
> usually require larger fuel injectors to accomadate this.   I was going to
> try it on the Honda i had for a winter beater last year, since the ECU's 
> can
> be easily chipped, and i can burn a chip w/ two programs and switch 
> between
> them w/ a switch it would have been perfect.  Problem was there was only 
> one
> gas station i found in town that carried it,(this is in NEBRASK!!! we have
> plenty of damn corn here!)  and it was still expensive....
> http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/energy/2006-02-14-e85-usat_x.htm
> for example.  Thats when i quit thinking about it.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Thomann" <list1 at thomann.no-ip.com>
> To: <supras at supras.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:17 PM
> Subject: [Supras] E85 retrofit
>
>
>> Does anyone know what is required to retrofit a non-flex fuel vehicle to
>> be able to run E85?  My understanding is that the American car makers
>> are shipping FFVs because there getting wavers to get a better overall
>> product line MPG rating and avoid fines.  Also making a flex fuel
>> vehicle only adds about $200 to the cost.  I have also been told that
>> Toyota has no intention of producing FFVs and will instead focus on
>> Hybrids.
>>
>> Please discuss.
>>
>>
>> JimT
>>
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