[Supras] 88 Auto Trans

Thu Oct 19 17:48:37 CDT 2006

guess you told me


> [Original Message]
> From: Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> To: <gerard88t at aaahawk.com>
> Cc: supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net>; Larry B
<turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
> Date: 10/19/2006 5:49:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>
> From you?
>
> Yes, and a reacharound for good measure.
>
>
>
> On 10/19/06, Gerard M <gerard88t at aaahawk.com> wrote:
> > You write of your deeds so proudly.  Good for you.
> > You expect admiration now?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> > > To: Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> > > Cc: Larry B <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
> > > Date: 10/19/2006 4:43:56 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
> > >
> > > HEY!!!!
> > >
> > >
> > > *I* was a Used Car Salesman!!
> > >
> > > And, to boot, we sold "Salvage Title" Cars.
> > > The guy before  me would wait until you were about to sing the papers,
> > and
> > > then tell you it was a Salvage Title (of course, after you got
financing,
> > > cash, etc...)
> > >
> > > I would hand the prospective sucke...er, buyer the keys, and give
them a
> > > good 10 mile ride to go on, and then when they came back I would open
the
> > > hood, door, trunk, etc and say, By The Way, this car was hit here and
> > here,
> > > and here's what we did.
> > >
> > > More often than not, I made the sale, because the owner and his other
> > > employees did good work.
> > >
> > > I had a girl come in, about 22, with a 1 year old baby, drooling all
over
> > > this Nissan 200SX I had. I took her over to an Escort with 29,000
miles
> > that
> > > had been flooded (we cleaned it and gutted it and sprayed it with oil
to
> > > drive the water out). She was disappointed, but I looked at her and
said,
> > > This is NOT the car for you!
> > >
> > > Two days later an 18 YO high school kid came in looking for something.
> > Can
> > > you spin a wrench? A little? Have I got the car for you!
> > >
> > > Seen him driving the 200 SX just the other day! Still going. Much to
my
> > > amazement!!!
> > >
> > > I talked as many people OUT of buying certain cars as the cars I sold.
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> > > To: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> > > Cc: "Larry B" <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
> > >
> > >
> > > > Ya...used car salesmen are just about as honest as used car owners
> > > > -at- used car lots.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ya know???
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 10/19/06, supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net> wrote:
> > > >> LOL! Back in the Good Old Days of the Honest Used Car Salesman, if
they
> > > >> had a car that had a transmission acting up, particularly slipping,
> > they
> > > >> would throw a handful of sawdust into the tranny. That would make
it
> > > >> nice and quiet, and provide enough 'friction material' to get the
car
> > to
> > > >> run for about 100 miles. After that, the sawdust would absorb AT
fluid
> > > >> and nestle into the filter, and the tranny would start acting up
> > > >> again...usually enough time to get past any 'warranties' the car
> > carried
> > > >> by law (and back then, basically if the car started, that was the
> > extent
> > > >> of the 'warranty'!).
> > > >>
> > > >> Only the scurrillous ones would do this; you know, the ones who
moved
> > > >> out of town after selling 5 cars.
> > > >> It also wrecks the tranny so that it needs a total tear down to
get the
> > > >> crap out and clean everything.
> > > >>
> > > >> I guess you can still do this, but only if your tranny is totally
TOAST
> > > >> and you're driving it either to the junkyard or to have another
> > > >> trnasmission installed.
> > > >> Trouble is, with modern cars, you don't want it getting into the
Trans
> > > >> cooler since it will gum them up, and make it's way back into your
> > 'new'
> > > >> tranny!
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 18:51 +0000, Larry B wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> > Just curious, as I know little about automagics,
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Is this what the "sawdust" quick fix is about?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Larry B
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:35:34 -0400
> > > >> > From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> > > >> > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
> > > >> > To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>,       <Supras at supras.com>
> > > >> > Message-ID: <00b101c6f127$f569d490$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
> > > >> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Oh, dear that's not good at all...
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On mine, 2 of the solenoids need to be replaced, so I will have
to
> > drop
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > pan
> > > >> > and dump out about 3 quarts of fluid.
> > > >> > It's black as the Ace of Spades, so this is NOT a good thing.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Generally, just draining and filling will not cause this
condition,
> > but
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > flushing will.
> > > >> > In our cases, the Black fluid means the Friction Material has
worn
> > off
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > Clutches and Brakes and become suspended in the fluid, providing
the
> > > >> > friction
> > > >> > needed to keep the car moving. By draining the fluid, you removed
> > too
> > > >> > much
> > > >> > of
> > > >> > the Friction Material, and now the 'naked' clutch plates have
> > nothing
> > > >> > to
> > > >> > grab
> > > >> > onto.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This is a pretty grave situation, as it means removing the tranny
> > from
> > > >> > the
> > > >> > car
> > > >> > and tearing it down to replace the friction surfaces. About $1200
> > and
> > > >> > no
> > > >> > guarantees! (I can't understand how a tranny shop can charge so
much
> > > >> > and
> > > >> > then
> > > >> > not work!).
> > > >> >
> > > >> > We now see why, when I first came here, my first question was
how to
> > > >> > install
> > > >> > a
> > > >> > W58 5-Speed into my NA '88!
> > > >> > Mine is well on it's way; I have to shift 'manually' because of
the
> > > >> > soleniods,
> > > >> > and I am afraid to do it for the problem you just ran across!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I generally tell people with older cars that have not had regular
> > > >> > tranny
> > > >> > service, SAVE THE OLD FLUID! It may be the only thing keeping
the car
> > > >> > running!
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Please, let us know what you find. I'm sure there are more than
just
> > > >> > you and
> > > >> > I
> > > >> > in this boat!
> > > >> >
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