[Supras] 88 Auto Trans

Thu Oct 19 17:45:05 CDT 2006

Oh Lord, here we go again,

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gerard M" <gerard88t at aaahawk.com>
To: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>; "Jeff Mohler" 
<speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
Cc: "Larry B" <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 4:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans

> You write of your deeds so proudly.  Good for you.
> You expect admiration now?
>
>
>
>
>> [Original Message]
>> From: supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net>
>> To: Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
>> Cc: Larry B <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
>> Date: 10/19/2006 4:43:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>>
>> HEY!!!!
>>
>>
>> *I* was a Used Car Salesman!!
>>
>> And, to boot, we sold "Salvage Title" Cars.
>> The guy before  me would wait until you were about to sing the papers,
> and
>> then tell you it was a Salvage Title (of course, after you got financing,
>> cash, etc...)
>>
>> I would hand the prospective sucke...er, buyer the keys, and give them a
>> good 10 mile ride to go on, and then when they came back I would open the
>> hood, door, trunk, etc and say, By The Way, this car was hit here and
> here,
>> and here's what we did.
>>
>> More often than not, I made the sale, because the owner and his other
>> employees did good work.
>>
>> I had a girl come in, about 22, with a 1 year old baby, drooling all over
>> this Nissan 200SX I had. I took her over to an Escort with 29,000 miles
> that
>> had been flooded (we cleaned it and gutted it and sprayed it with oil to
>> drive the water out). She was disappointed, but I looked at her and said,
>> This is NOT the car for you!
>>
>> Two days later an 18 YO high school kid came in looking for something.
> Can
>> you spin a wrench? A little? Have I got the car for you!
>>
>> Seen him driving the 200 SX just the other day! Still going. Much to my
>> amazement!!!
>>
>> I talked as many people OUT of buying certain cars as the cars I sold.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
>> To: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
>> Cc: "Larry B" <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>>
>>
>> > Ya...used car salesmen are just about as honest as used car owners
>> > -at- used car lots.
>> >
>> >
>> > Ya know???
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 10/19/06, supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> >> LOL! Back in the Good Old Days of the Honest Used Car Salesman, if 
>> >> they
>> >> had a car that had a transmission acting up, particularly slipping,
> they
>> >> would throw a handful of sawdust into the tranny. That would make it
>> >> nice and quiet, and provide enough 'friction material' to get the car
> to
>> >> run for about 100 miles. After that, the sawdust would absorb AT fluid
>> >> and nestle into the filter, and the tranny would start acting up
>> >> again...usually enough time to get past any 'warranties' the car
> carried
>> >> by law (and back then, basically if the car started, that was the
> extent
>> >> of the 'warranty'!).
>> >>
>> >> Only the scurrillous ones would do this; you know, the ones who moved
>> >> out of town after selling 5 cars.
>> >> It also wrecks the tranny so that it needs a total tear down to get 
>> >> the
>> >> crap out and clean everything.
>> >>
>> >> I guess you can still do this, but only if your tranny is totally 
>> >> TOAST
>> >> and you're driving it either to the junkyard or to have another
>> >> trnasmission installed.
>> >> Trouble is, with modern cars, you don't want it getting into the Trans
>> >> cooler since it will gum them up, and make it's way back into your
> 'new'
>> >> tranny!
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 18:51 +0000, Larry B wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Just curious, as I know little about automagics,
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this what the "sawdust" quick fix is about?
>> >> >
>> >> > Larry B
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:35:34 -0400
>> >> > From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
>> >> > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>> >> > To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>,       <Supras at supras.com>
>> >> > Message-ID: <00b101c6f127$f569d490$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
>> >> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >> >
>> >> > Oh, dear that's not good at all...
>> >> >
>> >> > On mine, 2 of the solenoids need to be replaced, so I will have to
> drop
>> >> > the
>> >> > pan
>> >> > and dump out about 3 quarts of fluid.
>> >> > It's black as the Ace of Spades, so this is NOT a good thing.
>> >> >
>> >> > Generally, just draining and filling will not cause this condition,
> but
>> >> > a
>> >> > flushing will.
>> >> > In our cases, the Black fluid means the Friction Material has worn
> off
>> >> > the
>> >> > Clutches and Brakes and become suspended in the fluid, providing the
>> >> > friction
>> >> > needed to keep the car moving. By draining the fluid, you removed
> too
>> >> > much
>> >> > of
>> >> > the Friction Material, and now the 'naked' clutch plates have
> nothing
>> >> > to
>> >> > grab
>> >> > onto.
>> >> >
>> >> > This is a pretty grave situation, as it means removing the tranny
> from
>> >> > the
>> >> > car
>> >> > and tearing it down to replace the friction surfaces. About $1200
> and
>> >> > no
>> >> > guarantees! (I can't understand how a tranny shop can charge so much
>> >> > and
>> >> > then
>> >> > not work!).
>> >> >
>> >> > We now see why, when I first came here, my first question was how to
>> >> > install
>> >> > a
>> >> > W58 5-Speed into my NA '88!
>> >> > Mine is well on it's way; I have to shift 'manually' because of the
>> >> > soleniods,
>> >> > and I am afraid to do it for the problem you just ran across!
>> >> >
>> >> > I generally tell people with older cars that have not had regular
>> >> > tranny
>> >> > service, SAVE THE OLD FLUID! It may be the only thing keeping the 
>> >> > car
>> >> > running!
>> >> >
>> >> > Please, let us know what you find. I'm sure there are more than just
>> >> > you and
>> >> > I
>> >> > in this boat!
>> >> >
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