[Supras] 88 Auto Trans

Thu Oct 19 15:48:40 CDT 2006

You write of your deeds so proudly.  Good for you.
You expect admiration now?

> [Original Message]
> From: supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> To: Jeff Mohler <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> Cc: Larry B <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
> Date: 10/19/2006 4:43:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>
> HEY!!!!
>
>
> *I* was a Used Car Salesman!!
>
> And, to boot, we sold "Salvage Title" Cars.
> The guy before  me would wait until you were about to sing the papers,
and 
> then tell you it was a Salvage Title (of course, after you got financing, 
> cash, etc...)
>
> I would hand the prospective sucke...er, buyer the keys, and give them a 
> good 10 mile ride to go on, and then when they came back I would open the 
> hood, door, trunk, etc and say, By The Way, this car was hit here and
here, 
> and here's what we did.
>
> More often than not, I made the sale, because the owner and his other 
> employees did good work.
>
> I had a girl come in, about 22, with a 1 year old baby, drooling all over 
> this Nissan 200SX I had. I took her over to an Escort with 29,000 miles
that 
> had been flooded (we cleaned it and gutted it and sprayed it with oil to 
> drive the water out). She was disappointed, but I looked at her and said, 
> This is NOT the car for you!
>
> Two days later an 18 YO high school kid came in looking for something.
Can 
> you spin a wrench? A little? Have I got the car for you!
>
> Seen him driving the 200 SX just the other day! Still going. Much to my 
> amazement!!!
>
> I talked as many people OUT of buying certain cars as the cars I sold.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> To: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> Cc: "Larry B" <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>
>
> > Ya...used car salesmen are just about as honest as used car owners
> > -at- used car lots.
> >
> >
> > Ya know???
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 10/19/06, supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net> wrote:
> >> LOL! Back in the Good Old Days of the Honest Used Car Salesman, if they
> >> had a car that had a transmission acting up, particularly slipping,
they
> >> would throw a handful of sawdust into the tranny. That would make it
> >> nice and quiet, and provide enough 'friction material' to get the car
to
> >> run for about 100 miles. After that, the sawdust would absorb AT fluid
> >> and nestle into the filter, and the tranny would start acting up
> >> again...usually enough time to get past any 'warranties' the car
carried
> >> by law (and back then, basically if the car started, that was the
extent
> >> of the 'warranty'!).
> >>
> >> Only the scurrillous ones would do this; you know, the ones who moved
> >> out of town after selling 5 cars.
> >> It also wrecks the tranny so that it needs a total tear down to get the
> >> crap out and clean everything.
> >>
> >> I guess you can still do this, but only if your tranny is totally TOAST
> >> and you're driving it either to the junkyard or to have another
> >> trnasmission installed.
> >> Trouble is, with modern cars, you don't want it getting into the Trans
> >> cooler since it will gum them up, and make it's way back into your
'new'
> >> tranny!
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 18:51 +0000, Larry B wrote:
> >>
> >> > Just curious, as I know little about automagics,
> >> >
> >> > Is this what the "sawdust" quick fix is about?
> >> >
> >> > Larry B
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:35:34 -0400
> >> > From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> >> > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
> >> > To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>,       <Supras at supras.com>
> >> > Message-ID: <00b101c6f127$f569d490$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
> >> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
> >> >
> >> > Oh, dear that's not good at all...
> >> >
> >> > On mine, 2 of the solenoids need to be replaced, so I will have to
drop 
> >> > the
> >> > pan
> >> > and dump out about 3 quarts of fluid.
> >> > It's black as the Ace of Spades, so this is NOT a good thing.
> >> >
> >> > Generally, just draining and filling will not cause this condition,
but 
> >> > a
> >> > flushing will.
> >> > In our cases, the Black fluid means the Friction Material has worn
off 
> >> > the
> >> > Clutches and Brakes and become suspended in the fluid, providing the
> >> > friction
> >> > needed to keep the car moving. By draining the fluid, you removed
too 
> >> > much
> >> > of
> >> > the Friction Material, and now the 'naked' clutch plates have
nothing 
> >> > to
> >> > grab
> >> > onto.
> >> >
> >> > This is a pretty grave situation, as it means removing the tranny
from 
> >> > the
> >> > car
> >> > and tearing it down to replace the friction surfaces. About $1200
and 
> >> > no
> >> > guarantees! (I can't understand how a tranny shop can charge so much 
> >> > and
> >> > then
> >> > not work!).
> >> >
> >> > We now see why, when I first came here, my first question was how to 
> >> > install
> >> > a
> >> > W58 5-Speed into my NA '88!
> >> > Mine is well on it's way; I have to shift 'manually' because of the
> >> > soleniods,
> >> > and I am afraid to do it for the problem you just ran across!
> >> >
> >> > I generally tell people with older cars that have not had regular 
> >> > tranny
> >> > service, SAVE THE OLD FLUID! It may be the only thing keeping the car
> >> > running!
> >> >
> >> > Please, let us know what you find. I'm sure there are more than just 
> >> > you and
> >> > I
> >> > in this boat!
> >> >
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