[Supras] 88 Auto Trans

Thu Oct 19 15:42:12 CDT 2006

HEY!!!!

*I* was a Used Car Salesman!!

And, to boot, we sold "Salvage Title" Cars.
The guy before  me would wait until you were about to sing the papers, and 
then tell you it was a Salvage Title (of course, after you got financing, 
cash, etc...)

I would hand the prospective sucke...er, buyer the keys, and give them a 
good 10 mile ride to go on, and then when they came back I would open the 
hood, door, trunk, etc and say, By The Way, this car was hit here and here, 
and here's what we did.

More often than not, I made the sale, because the owner and his other 
employees did good work.

I had a girl come in, about 22, with a 1 year old baby, drooling all over 
this Nissan 200SX I had. I took her over to an Escort with 29,000 miles that 
had been flooded (we cleaned it and gutted it and sprayed it with oil to 
drive the water out). She was disappointed, but I looked at her and said, 
This is NOT the car for you!

Two days later an 18 YO high school kid came in looking for something. Can 
you spin a wrench? A little? Have I got the car for you!

Seen him driving the 200 SX just the other day! Still going. Much to my 
amazement!!!

I talked as many people OUT of buying certain cars as the cars I sold.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
To: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
Cc: "Larry B" <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>; <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 3:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans

> Ya...used car salesmen are just about as honest as used car owners
> -at- used car lots.
>
>
> Ya know???
>
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> On 10/19/06, supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net> wrote:
>> LOL! Back in the Good Old Days of the Honest Used Car Salesman, if they
>> had a car that had a transmission acting up, particularly slipping, they
>> would throw a handful of sawdust into the tranny. That would make it
>> nice and quiet, and provide enough 'friction material' to get the car to
>> run for about 100 miles. After that, the sawdust would absorb AT fluid
>> and nestle into the filter, and the tranny would start acting up
>> again...usually enough time to get past any 'warranties' the car carried
>> by law (and back then, basically if the car started, that was the extent
>> of the 'warranty'!).
>>
>> Only the scurrillous ones would do this; you know, the ones who moved
>> out of town after selling 5 cars.
>> It also wrecks the tranny so that it needs a total tear down to get the
>> crap out and clean everything.
>>
>> I guess you can still do this, but only if your tranny is totally TOAST
>> and you're driving it either to the junkyard or to have another
>> trnasmission installed.
>> Trouble is, with modern cars, you don't want it getting into the Trans
>> cooler since it will gum them up, and make it's way back into your 'new'
>> tranny!
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 18:51 +0000, Larry B wrote:
>>
>> > Just curious, as I know little about automagics,
>> >
>> > Is this what the "sawdust" quick fix is about?
>> >
>> > Larry B
>> >
>> >
>> > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:35:34 -0400
>> > From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
>> > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
>> > To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>,       <Supras at supras.com>
>> > Message-ID: <00b101c6f127$f569d490$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
>> > Content-Type: text/plain;     charset="iso-8859-1"
>> >
>> > Oh, dear that's not good at all...
>> >
>> > On mine, 2 of the solenoids need to be replaced, so I will have to drop 
>> > the
>> > pan
>> > and dump out about 3 quarts of fluid.
>> > It's black as the Ace of Spades, so this is NOT a good thing.
>> >
>> > Generally, just draining and filling will not cause this condition, but 
>> > a
>> > flushing will.
>> > In our cases, the Black fluid means the Friction Material has worn off 
>> > the
>> > Clutches and Brakes and become suspended in the fluid, providing the
>> > friction
>> > needed to keep the car moving. By draining the fluid, you removed too 
>> > much
>> > of
>> > the Friction Material, and now the 'naked' clutch plates have nothing 
>> > to
>> > grab
>> > onto.
>> >
>> > This is a pretty grave situation, as it means removing the tranny from 
>> > the
>> > car
>> > and tearing it down to replace the friction surfaces. About $1200 and 
>> > no
>> > guarantees! (I can't understand how a tranny shop can charge so much 
>> > and
>> > then
>> > not work!).
>> >
>> > We now see why, when I first came here, my first question was how to 
>> > install
>> > a
>> > W58 5-Speed into my NA '88!
>> > Mine is well on it's way; I have to shift 'manually' because of the
>> > soleniods,
>> > and I am afraid to do it for the problem you just ran across!
>> >
>> > I generally tell people with older cars that have not had regular 
>> > tranny
>> > service, SAVE THE OLD FLUID! It may be the only thing keeping the car
>> > running!
>> >
>> > Please, let us know what you find. I'm sure there are more than just 
>> > you and
>> > I
>> > in this boat!
>> >
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