[Supras] 88 Auto Trans

[Jeff Mohler]

Ya...used car salesmen are just about as honest as used car owners
-at- used car lots.


Ya know???




On 10/19/06, supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net> wrote:
> LOL! Back in the Good Old Days of the Honest Used Car Salesman, if they
> had a car that had a transmission acting up, particularly slipping, they
> would throw a handful of sawdust into the tranny. That would make it
> nice and quiet, and provide enough 'friction material' to get the car to
> run for about 100 miles. After that, the sawdust would absorb AT fluid
> and nestle into the filter, and the tranny would start acting up
> again...usually enough time to get past any 'warranties' the car carried
> by law (and back then, basically if the car started, that was the extent
> of the 'warranty'!).
>
> Only the scurrillous ones would do this; you know, the ones who moved
> out of town after selling 5 cars.
> It also wrecks the tranny so that it needs a total tear down to get the
> crap out and clean everything.
>
> I guess you can still do this, but only if your tranny is totally TOAST
> and you're driving it either to the junkyard or to have another
> trnasmission installed.
> Trouble is, with modern cars, you don't want it getting into the Trans
> cooler since it will gum them up, and make it's way back into your 'new'
> tranny!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 18:51 +0000, Larry B wrote:
>
> > Just curious, as I know little about automagics,
> >
> > Is this what the "sawdust" quick fix is about?
> >
> > Larry B
> >
> >
> > Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:35:34 -0400
> > From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
> > To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>,       <Supras at supras.com>
> > Message-ID: <00b101c6f127$f569d490$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
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> >
> > Oh, dear that's not good at all...
> >
> > On mine, 2 of the solenoids need to be replaced, so I will have to drop the
> > pan
> > and dump out about 3 quarts of fluid.
> > It's black as the Ace of Spades, so this is NOT a good thing.
> >
> > Generally, just draining and filling will not cause this condition, but a
> > flushing will.
> > In our cases, the Black fluid means the Friction Material has worn off the
> > Clutches and Brakes and become suspended in the fluid, providing the
> > friction
> > needed to keep the car moving. By draining the fluid, you removed too much
> > of
> > the Friction Material, and now the 'naked' clutch plates have nothing to
> > grab
> > onto.
> >
> > This is a pretty grave situation, as it means removing the tranny from the
> > car
> > and tearing it down to replace the friction surfaces. About $1200 and no
> > guarantees! (I can't understand how a tranny shop can charge so much and
> > then
> > not work!).
> >
> > We now see why, when I first came here, my first question was how to install
> > a
> > W58 5-Speed into my NA '88!
> > Mine is well on it's way; I have to shift 'manually' because of the
> > soleniods,
> > and I am afraid to do it for the problem you just ran across!
> >
> > I generally tell people with older cars that have not had regular tranny
> > service, SAVE THE OLD FLUID! It may be the only thing keeping the car
> > running!
> >
> > Please, let us know what you find. I'm sure there are more than just you and
> > I
> > in this boat!
> >
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