[Supras] 88 Auto Trans

[supraman88]

LOL! Back in the Good Old Days of the Honest Used Car Salesman, if they
had a car that had a transmission acting up, particularly slipping, they
would throw a handful of sawdust into the tranny. That would make it
nice and quiet, and provide enough 'friction material' to get the car to
run for about 100 miles. After that, the sawdust would absorb AT fluid
and nestle into the filter, and the tranny would start acting up
again...usually enough time to get past any 'warranties' the car carried
by law (and back then, basically if the car started, that was the extent
of the 'warranty'!).

Only the scurrillous ones would do this; you know, the ones who moved
out of town after selling 5 cars. 
It also wrecks the tranny so that it needs a total tear down to get the
crap out and clean everything. 

I guess you can still do this, but only if your tranny is totally TOAST
and you're driving it either to the junkyard or to have another
trnasmission installed.
Trouble is, with modern cars, you don't want it getting into the Trans
cooler since it will gum them up, and make it's way back into your 'new'
tranny!






On Wed, 2006-10-18 at 18:51 +0000, Larry B wrote:

> Just curious, as I know little about automagics,
> 
> Is this what the "sawdust" quick fix is about?
> 
> Larry B
> 
> 
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 09:35:34 -0400
> From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans
> To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>,	<Supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID: <00b101c6f127$f569d490$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
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> 
> Oh, dear that's not good at all...
> 
> On mine, 2 of the solenoids need to be replaced, so I will have to drop the 
> pan
> and dump out about 3 quarts of fluid.
> It's black as the Ace of Spades, so this is NOT a good thing.
> 
> Generally, just draining and filling will not cause this condition, but a
> flushing will.
> In our cases, the Black fluid means the Friction Material has worn off the
> Clutches and Brakes and become suspended in the fluid, providing the 
> friction
> needed to keep the car moving. By draining the fluid, you removed too much 
> of
> the Friction Material, and now the 'naked' clutch plates have nothing to 
> grab
> onto.
> 
> This is a pretty grave situation, as it means removing the tranny from the 
> car
> and tearing it down to replace the friction surfaces. About $1200 and no
> guarantees! (I can't understand how a tranny shop can charge so much and 
> then
> not work!).
> 
> We now see why, when I first came here, my first question was how to install 
> a
> W58 5-Speed into my NA '88!
> Mine is well on it's way; I have to shift 'manually' because of the 
> soleniods,
> and I am afraid to do it for the problem you just ran across!
> 
> I generally tell people with older cars that have not had regular tranny
> service, SAVE THE OLD FLUID! It may be the only thing keeping the car 
> running!
> 
> Please, let us know what you find. I'm sure there are more than just you and 
> I
> in this boat!
> 
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