[Supras] Supras Digest, Vol 35, Issue 20

berniek at technicaldevelop.com berniek at technicaldevelop.com
Tue Oct 17 00:13:36 CDT 2006 

In reviewing the photos of the supposed MKV and text posted, who the hell
among us is going to spend $100K for a complicated semi-hybrid, even it it
does develop 500 HP?

    Different year, same mistake, but more so.

        BernieK


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>    3. OEM head gasket for sale (Michael Green)
>    4. Re: 2008 Supra (supraman88)
>    5. Re: 2008 Supra (James W.)
>    6. Re: 88 Auto Trans - Swap ALL the fluid (supraman88)
>    7. Re: 2008 Supra (sprigmo1)
>    8. Re: 2008 Supra (Jim Jobe)
>    9. Re: 2008 Supra (Jim Jobe)
>   10. Re: 2008 Supra (Doug Salb)
>   11. Re: 2008 Supra (Jim Jobe)
>   12. Re: 2008 Supra (Brandon)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:52:02 -0400
> From: "Brian Walker" <Brian.Walker at timmons.com>
> Subject: [Supras] Report from first track day...
> To: "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
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>
> Well I attended my first track day (HPDE) this weekend with Nasa-Ma at
> Summit Point. All I can say is, if you've thought about doing this don't
> wait any longer. Even if it's not in the mk3 because you're worried
> about something breaking, take a car out there and have fun. The Supra
> did great, although I was easy on her at times (normally shifting at 5k
> but earlier in traffic) I have never thought I'd be able to corner as
> well as I did in this heavy of a car, maybe sometime next year I'll look
> into coilovers for even more grip. It's a cool feeling coming through a
> sweeper at 75-80 and feeling confident doing it. I enjoyed getting a
> point by from a Shelby at one time and didn't mind giving one to a civic
> that didn't even have to lift coming through the corner onto the
> straight. I learned a lot about my car that I hadn't learned on the
> street or in an auto-x.
>
> Just wanted to pass this along to anyone that's considering a track
> event in the future.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:03:47 -0700
> From: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] Report from first track day...
> To: "Brian Walker" <Brian.Walker at timmons.com>
> Cc: supras list <supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID:
> <a969fbd10610161203i52d5f63yaa44734c6f4b7b98 at mail.gmail.com>
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> Bitchin...that you were adult enough to GIVE a point by puts you leaps
> and bounds ahead of most street racers.
>
> Fantastic that you went out Brian.
>
> :)
>
>
>
> On 10/16/06, Brian Walker <Brian.Walker at timmons.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Well I attended my first track day (HPDE) this weekend with Nasa-Ma at
> > Summit Point. All I can say is, if you've thought about doing this don't
> > wait any longer. Even if it's not in the mk3 because you're worried
> > about something breaking, take a car out there and have fun. The Supra
> > did great, although I was easy on her at times (normally shifting at 5k
> > but earlier in traffic) I have never thought I'd be able to corner as
> > well as I did in this heavy of a car, maybe sometime next year I'll look
> > into coilovers for even more grip. It's a cool feeling coming through a
> > sweeper at 75-80 and feeling confident doing it. I enjoyed getting a
> > point by from a Shelby at one time and didn't mind giving one to a civic
> > that didn't even have to lift coming through the corner onto the
> > straight. I learned a lot about my car that I hadn't learned on the
> > street or in an auto-x.
> >
> > Just wanted to pass this along to anyone that's considering a track
> > event in the future.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Supras at supras.com
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> >
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 12:05:46 -0700
> From: "Michael Green" <mikejaygreen at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Supras] OEM head gasket for sale
> To: supras at supras.com
> Message-ID: <BAY123-F1AC0F73905E3D52F180CACC090 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed
>
> 7M (OEM) head gasket out of my engine rebuild gasket set.
> Please contact me off list if interested.
>
>
> Michael J. Green
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:51:17 -0400
> From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: "sprigmo1" <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>, <Supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID: <000801c6f164$d4cebce0$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
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>
> Way ahead of you! I saw it Thursday and started piling the quarters into
an
> old Jack Daniels  GALLON bottle a bartender gave me. He said, "Only put
> quarters in here!"
>
> I figure by the time it gets here, I'll at least have a good Down Payment!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "sprigmo1" <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>
> To: "car club" <supras at supras.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:31 AM
> Subject: [Supras] 2008 Supra
>
>
> > November issue of Road and Track verifies the production of the vehicle
> > with photo!
> >  I'm saving as we speak!
> >  Malik
> >
> >
> >  Malik
> >  It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
> >  92Trbo Supra 367whp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
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> > http://supras.com/mailman/listinfo/supras_supras.com
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>
>
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>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:06:29 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "James W." <potmetalsoldier at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: Supra Owners <supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID: <20061016210630.95169.qmail at web52715.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Anyone get scans of this article? I've heard rumors
> for many years about the MkV Supra. I've seen the
> random photos that have been circling  the web for
> years,
>
> http://www.geocities.com/showoff001/2008supra.jpg
>
> http://sloaninnovations.com/ebay/Toyota-Volca-006.jpg
>
> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/FFVIIkilla/6.jpg
>
> But I've never seen anything 'real'. No statements
> from Toyota, nothing confirmable. The news of Lexus'
> LF-A a while back really made some people wonder. Now
> this R&T article has me wondering again.
> -James
> 88T Targa
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 16:54:31 -0400
> From: "supraman88" <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans - Swap ALL the fluid
> To: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>, <Supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID: <001701c6f165$4e1d1ec0$a103a8c0 at omegafilters.com>
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> reply-type=original
>
> Oh, dear...
>
> Now we did this with two Escorts with about 125,000 miles on them. Took
them
> out and had them flushed (they run about 5 gallons of tranny fluid through
> the tranny) and had them refilled with 'friction modified' tranny sauce.
>
> The first one made it about 3 miles...
>
> The second one made it about three blocks...
>
> NEVER did it again!!!
>
> I would just keep draining and filling. It sounds like your tranny's done,
> though...
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Joe Mama" <its4sale899 at yahoo.com>
> To: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> Cc: "SupraList" <supras at supras.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 12:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 88 Auto Trans - Swap ALL the fluid
>
>
> > Thanks Jeff, for the advice to swap ALL the fluid.  Any suggestions on
how
> > to do this?  Just keep draining and refilling?
> >
> > Seems like I am getting conflicting advise.  Save the fluid, swap the
> > fluid.
> > To save or swap, that is the question!  (Too late to save, its GONE)
> >
> > Thanks, Steve
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > Supras at supras.com
> > http://supras.com/mailman/listinfo/supras_supras.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 14:34:48 -0700 (PDT)
> From: sprigmo1 <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> Cc: car club <supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID: <20061016213448.28343.qmail at web30803.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> Now to figure out how to get the new one and keep my 92 without the wife
finding out!?!?!?!?
>
> supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net> wrote:  Way ahead of you! I saw it
Thursday and started piling the quarters into an
> old Jack Daniels GALLON bottle a bartender gave me. He said, "Only put
> quarters in here!"
>
> I figure by the time it gets here, I'll at least have a good Down Payment!
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "sprigmo1"
> To: "car club"
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:31 AM
> Subject: [Supras] 2008 Supra
>
>
> > November issue of Road and Track verifies the production of the vehicle
> > with photo!
> > I'm saving as we speak!
> > Malik
> >
> >
> > Malik
> > It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
> > 92Trbo Supra 367whp
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------
> > Do you Yahoo!?
> > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://supras.com/mailman/listinfo/supras_supras.com
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>   Malik
>   It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
>   92Trbo Supra 367whp
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:27:23 -0400
> From: Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: "James W." <potmetalsoldier at yahoo.com>
> Cc: Supra Owners <supras at supras.com>
> Message-ID: <20061017032723.GD31844 at jupiter.jobe.cc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> All of the rags talk about a new Toyota sports car about
> this time, every year.  Has been going on for almost a
> decade now, and well before that for every other car maker
> and product.  Get a clue people.  It's called marketing.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:06:29PM -0700, James W. wrote:
> > Anyone get scans of this article? I've heard rumors
> > for many years about the MkV Supra. I've seen the
> > random photos that have been circling  the web for
> > years,
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/showoff001/2008supra.jpg
> >
> > http://sloaninnovations.com/ebay/Toyota-Volca-006.jpg
> >
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/FFVIIkilla/6.jpg
> >
> > But I've never seen anything 'real'. No statements
> > from Toyota, nothing confirmable. The news of Lexus'
> > LF-A a while back really made some people wonder. Now
> > this R&T article has me wondering again.
> > -James
> > 88T Targa
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:28:50 -0400
> From: Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: supraman88 <supraman88 at verizon.net>
> Cc: Supras at supras.com
> Message-ID: <20061017032850.GE31844 at jupiter.jobe.cc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>
> Hmm, better than a Midletons bottle.  I wonder if it would be worth
> more with the quarters or the whisky.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 04:51:17PM -0400, supraman88 wrote:
> > Way ahead of you! I saw it Thursday and started piling the quarters into
an
> > old Jack Daniels  GALLON bottle a bartender gave me. He said, "Only put
> > quarters in here!"
> >
> > I figure by the time it gets here, I'll at least have a good Down
Payment!
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "sprigmo1" <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>
> > To: "car club" <supras at supras.com>
> > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 9:31 AM
> > Subject: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> >
> >
> > > November issue of Road and Track verifies the production of the
vehicle
> > > with photo!
> > >  I'm saving as we speak!
> > >  Malik
> > >
> > >
> > >  Malik
> > >  It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
> > >  92Trbo Supra 367whp
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------
> > > Do you Yahoo!?
> > > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! Mail.
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Supras mailing list
> > > Supras at supras.com
> > > http://supras.com/mailman/listinfo/supras_supras.com
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 20:59:35 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Doug Salb <mr21985 at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> Cc: supras at supras.com
> Message-ID: <20061017035935.48258.qmail at web53008.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
> No it's called wishfull thinking,
>   The New Supra is coming, I know it in my heart.
>   With the Z and the RX8 Toyota has no choice but to answer the call.
>   Build it and they will come.
>
>   Amen.
>
>   -Doug
>
>
>
> Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org> wrote:
>
> All of the rags talk about a new Toyota sports car about
> this time, every year. Has been going on for almost a
> decade now, and well before that for every other car maker
> and product. Get a clue people. It's called marketing.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:06:29PM -0700, James W. wrote:
> > Anyone get scans of this article? I've heard rumors
> > for many years about the MkV Supra. I've seen the
> > random photos that have been circling the web for
> > years,
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/showoff001/2008supra.jpg
> >
> > http://sloaninnovations.com/ebay/Toyota-Volca-006.jpg
> >
> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/FFVIIkilla/6.jpg
> >
> > But I've never seen anything 'real'. No statements
> > from Toyota, nothing confirmable. The news of Lexus'
> > LF-A a while back really made some people wonder. Now
> > this R&T article has me wondering again.
> > -James
> > 88T Targa
> >
> > __________________________________________________
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> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2006 00:19:06 -0400
> From: Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: Doug Salb <mr21985 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: supras at supras.com
> Message-ID: <20061017041906.GF31844 at jupiter.jobe.cc>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>
> Answer exactly WHAT call?  Yours?  No.  The general public's?  Sure.
> Whatever they'll buy, LOTS of.  A Toyota sports car isn't that.  Toyota
> has lots of choices to make.  They make $ on Scions, Camry's, etc so
> that's what they'll choose.   For every one of you there's 1000's of
> Camry and Scion buyers already in line in front of you.
>
> Wishfull indeed.  :-)
>
> Well that was my yearly rant on that topic.
>
> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:59:35PM -0700, Doug Salb wrote:
> > No it's called wishfull thinking,
> >   The New Supra is coming, I know it in my heart.
> >   With the Z and the RX8 Toyota has no choice but to answer the call.
> >   Build it and they will come.
> >
> >   Amen.
> >
> >   -Doug
> >
> >
> >
> > Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org> wrote:
> >
> > All of the rags talk about a new Toyota sports car about
> > this time, every year. Has been going on for almost a
> > decade now, and well before that for every other car maker
> > and product. Get a clue people. It's called marketing.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:06:29PM -0700, James W. wrote:
> > > Anyone get scans of this article? I've heard rumors
> > > for many years about the MkV Supra. I've seen the
> > > random photos that have been circling the web for
> > > years,
> > >
> > > http://www.geocities.com/showoff001/2008supra.jpg
> > >
> > > http://sloaninnovations.com/ebay/Toyota-Volca-006.jpg
> > >
> > > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/FFVIIkilla/6.jpg
> > >
> > > But I've never seen anything 'real'. No statements
> > > from Toyota, nothing confirmable. The news of Lexus'
> > > LF-A a while back really made some people wonder. Now
> > > this R&T article has me wondering again.
> > > -James
> > > 88T Targa
> > >
> > > __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com
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> Message: 12
> Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:44:29 -0500
> From: "Brandon" <fstrnldr at tconl.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
> To: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>, "Doug Salb" <mr21985 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: supras at supras.com
> Message-ID: <000801c6f1a6$ef4e2960$6501a8c0 at transonict30>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> reply-type=original
>
> On the plus side the chances of the IS500 appearing seem to be a bit
closer
> to reality since there is competition against the M line up from BMW, and
it
> seems toyota is more concerned w/ the German competition than the other
> japanese companies.
>
> Brandon
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
> To: "Doug Salb" <mr21985 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: <supras at supras.com>
> Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] 2008 Supra
>
>
> >
> > Answer exactly WHAT call?  Yours?  No.  The general public's?  Sure.
> > Whatever they'll buy, LOTS of.  A Toyota sports car isn't that.  Toyota
> > has lots of choices to make.  They make $ on Scions, Camry's, etc so
> > that's what they'll choose.   For every one of you there's 1000's of
> > Camry and Scion buyers already in line in front of you.
> >
> > Wishfull indeed.  :-)
> >
> > Well that was my yearly rant on that topic.
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 08:59:35PM -0700, Doug Salb wrote:
> >> No it's called wishfull thinking,
> >>   The New Supra is coming, I know it in my heart.
> >>   With the Z and the RX8 Toyota has no choice but to answer the call.
> >>   Build it and they will come.
> >>
> >>   Amen.
> >>
> >>   -Doug
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> All of the rags talk about a new Toyota sports car about
> >> this time, every year. Has been going on for almost a
> >> decade now, and well before that for every other car maker
> >> and product. Get a clue people. It's called marketing.
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 16, 2006 at 02:06:29PM -0700, James W. wrote:
> >> > Anyone get scans of this article? I've heard rumors
> >> > for many years about the MkV Supra. I've seen the
> >> > random photos that have been circling the web for
> >> > years,
> >> >
> >> > http://www.geocities.com/showoff001/2008supra.jpg
> >> >
> >> > http://sloaninnovations.com/ebay/Toyota-Volca-006.jpg
> >> >
> >> > http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v350/FFVIIkilla/6.jpg
> >> >
> >> > But I've never seen anything 'real'. No statements
> >> > from Toyota, nothing confirmable. The news of Lexus'
> >> > LF-A a while back really made some people wonder. Now
> >> > this R&T article has me wondering again.
> >> > -James
> >> > 88T Targa
> >> >
> >> > __________________________________________________
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