[Supras] Power Steering Hose HELP please - follow up

Michael Bringle squeak at CygnusX1.net
Tue Nov 14 02:02:47 CST 2006


It could also come from the pump, where mine was, or the reservoir, or the
rack itself.

-Mike
89T BST++
http://www.CygnusX1.net/supra 

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From: supras-bounces at supras.com [mailto:supras-bounces at supras.com] On Behalf
Of D P
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 12:27 PM
To: supras at supras.com
Subject: [Supras] Power Steering Hose HELP please - follow up

Ok, the first two hoses i removed aren't PS lines.

I don't know which hose is the high pressure steering hose.  In the Cygnus 
Power steering tube diagram, which hose is the high pressure?

Now i'm not sure where the ps leak is......all i know is that the ps fluid 
needs to be topped up like every day.  The car hasn't been driven for like a

6 months now and I don't know where the leak is coming from now.


Darren
92T 5-Speed White Package
Canadian Model in Florida





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>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:00:00 -0600
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>    1. Easy way to adjust valve lash (berniek at technicaldevelop.com)
>    2. Re: SILV06 (Larry B)
>    3. I Broke It (sprigmo1)
>    4. Re: I Broke It (Jim Jobe)
>    5. I Broke it Pt2 (sprigmo1)
>    6. Power Steering Hose HELP please (D P)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 21:39:41 -0500
>From: berniek at technicaldevelop.com
>Subject: [Supras] Easy way to adjust valve lash
>To: Supras at supras.com
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>The TSRM way of removing shims is difficult at best.  Removing the cams is 
>more difficult yet if the engine is assembled and in the car.  A much 
>easier way exists if the clearance is excessive.
>
>1.  Make sure the caps are properly fitted, as has been written about 
>before.  Remove the two caps adjacent to the one to be checked, lay about 3

>small squares of .003 common writing paper on top of the journals, and 
>reinstall the two caps to push the cam into the saddles.  Reinstall the 
>caps with the screws just snugged down, and measure the journal to cap 
>clearance in the journal between the two with green plastigage. The front 
>and second journals do not commonly wear unless the oil is sludge, so do 
>not normally need to be removed.  The rear journal caps, especially in the 
>exhaust side wear the most.   Carefully flat file or lap the cap to obtain 
>a plastigage clearance of .0025" to .002".  For the last journal it is only

>necessary to "shim down" the # 6 cap with paper.
>
>2.  Recheck all of the shim to base circle clearances.  The exhaust should 
>be .008" to .012", and the intake should be .006" to .010".
>
>For those that are excessive, the following procedure can be used:
>
>1.  Use a screwdriver with a plastic handle and a blade width of about 3/8"

>  From the opposite side of the engine, drive the screwdriver between the 
>cam base circle and the shim, compressing the valve spring using a light 
>hammer.  Don't worry.  At least in my experience and opinion, the cam and 
>shims are hard enough, combined with the low spring pressure to not be a 
>problem (I have had no problems doing this, but I cannot guarantee it).
>
>2.  Take a smaller screwdriver, perhaps with a 1/4" blade, stand it on edge

>between the rim of the bucket and the shank of the camshaft.  Tap lightly 
>on the end with the hammer, so the side to side blade taper drives it in to

>compress the spring a little more.  You can now remove the larger 
>screwdriver.
>
>3.  Get stainless or brass shim stock assortments from McMaster-Carr or 
>other sources.  McMaster has an assortment of stainless shim stock ranging 
>in thickness from .001" to. 020" as stock number 9301K6 for $51.68.
>
>4.  Using a spare shim as a template, cut a circle out of the shim stock.  
>Make sure it is less in diameter than the shim (0.983 is the shim diameter,

>but about .050" less for the supplementary shim is OK).
>
>5.  Using the method described, you will not be able to remove the main 
>shim from the bucket, but you can lift it enough to slide the supplementary

>shim between the bucket and existing shim.
>
>Hope this helps.  Do not skip the cap refitting step.  The cams lifting 
>into worn caps is where most of the noise related to excessive valve 
>clearance comes from.
>
>         BernieK
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:30:33 +0000
>From: "Larry B" <turbogeek87 at hotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: [Supras] SILV06
>To: supras at supras.com
>Cc: turbogeek87 at hotmail.com
>Message-ID: <BAY102-F206FF1B1A6B9CAF9F3837B2F40 at phx.gbl>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2006 17:10:20 -0500
>From: "Ken" <myblinkie1 at bellsouth.net>
>Subject: Re: [Supras] SILV06???
>To: "Supra List" <supras at supras.com>
>Message-ID: <001501c705de$2dc2fae0$020aa8c0 at creekgov.local>
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>I can't belive I haven't seen a single post regarding the "biggest Supra
>event
>on the planet". Did anyone from those list attend?
>
>Come to think of it, I haven't even seen a post from the event coordinators
>since the calendar went on sale...
>
>Ken (FL TO4E)
>
>I went.I thought it was a great get together, but my response is tempered 
>by
>not having gone to the event since 1998. In comparision to 1998, it was 
>much
>bigger, but I guess compared to recent years it has declined somewhat. I 
>can
>say that the MKiii (and mkiv for that matter), showing at the drags was
>pitiful. Ant the matchings weren't the greatest. MkIII single turbos 
>(stock)
>being lined up with mkvi single turbos (not stock) was kind of a bad joke.
>It would be more competitive MKiv BPU against mkiii, but you'd have to be
>maxed out on the mkiii stock turbo and most ppl just upgrade the turbo
>before they get to that point. The fun run drew 30+ cars, and only had one
>accident, one blown turbo, and then I started overheating. One nice thing 
>it
>does reinforce how helpful people are in the group when another car is in
>trouble. I missed some of the ealrier MKiiis at the dyno, I guess we had
>some pretty good numbers. Next year we need a weanie roast as the Sound
>Performance car provided plenty of heat behind it as it went on to register
>1377rwhp.
>Poker was great. We had about thirty show up (several no shows), and I
>managed to stay in past the first three kicked out. Who says supra owners
>can't play poker (not me {anymore}).
>
>A few wrap up threads follow:
>
>http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392229
>
>http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392441
>
>Keith H's competition wrap up
>http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392371
>
>http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=393399
>
>http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=388959
>
>http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=392089
>
>http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28735
>
>Larry B
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>Message: 3
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 05:14:12 -0800 (PST)
>From: sprigmo1 <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Supras] I Broke It
>To: car club <supras at supras.com>
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>OK, went to the Great Falls Meet Sat.  had a great time!
>   On the way home smoke spewing from my catch can filter, then out of my 
>exhaust!
>   Yes I did have a 100+ mph run before this happened!
>   Any ideas what it could be before I start pulling things apart?
>   I figure blown rings, or broken valve stem??????
>
>   Soon as you get'em running good..............Uugh!
>   Malik
>
>
>   Malik
>   It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
>   92Trbo Supra 367whp
>
>
>
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>Message: 4
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 09:25:23 -0500
>From: Jim Jobe <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
>Subject: Re: [Supras] I Broke It
>To: sprigmo1 <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>
>Cc: car club <supras at supras.com>
>Message-ID: <20061113142523.GA3923 at jupiter.jobe.cc>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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>
>Fluid harness cover gasket is bad.
>
>On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 05:14:12AM -0800, sprigmo1 wrote:
> > OK, went to the Great Falls Meet Sat.  had a great time!
> >   On the way home smoke spewing from my catch can filter, then out of my

>exhaust!
> >   Yes I did have a 100+ mph run before this happened!
> >   Any ideas what it could be before I start pulling things apart?
> >   I figure blown rings, or broken valve stem??????
> >
> >   Soon as you get'em running good..............Uugh!
> >   Malik
> >
> >
> >   Malik
> >   It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
> >   92Trbo Supra 367whp
> >
>
>
>
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>Message: 5
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 08:23:54 -0800 (PST)
>From: sprigmo1 <sprigmo1 at yahoo.com>
>Subject: [Supras] I Broke it Pt2
>To: car club <supras at supras.com>
>Message-ID: <20061113162354.46653.qmail at web30813.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>
>OK,
>   Upon further inspection, I took off top intercooler hose and accordian 
>hose from turbo.
>   Oil puddled in front of turbo, accordian hose saturated with oil.  
>Intercooler pipe has oil residue, but not pudlled in it like the accordian 
>hose.  Passenger side undercarriage saturated with oil. Catch can full of 
>oil. Dipstick reads empty!
>
>
>   Malik
>   It Ain't Eazy Being Me!!!!
>   92Trbo Supra 367whp
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 6
>Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 12:29:21 -0500
>From: "D P" <darnsuprat at hotmail.com>
>Subject: [Supras] Power Steering Hose HELP please
>To: supras at supras.com
>Message-ID: <BAY115-F2947E078EF8679E893CABBC7F40 at phx.gbl>
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>I'm trying to fix my PS leak on my 92T and need some help.
>
>I removed the 2 hoses that I know has been dripping ps oil.  I checked
>visually while under there to see what other hoses are "wet" but couldn't
>find anymore.
>
>My problem is, I don't know if these are PS or engine oil hoses and I 
>cannot
>find these hoses in the TSRM.
>
>If somone has a Haynes Toyota Celica Supra manual 79 thru 92, please look 
>at
>page 10-3 please take a look and help me. On the lower picture, they are 
>the
>2 hoses shown between numbers 4 and 5 and runs upwards on the picture
>towards the front of the car.
>
>Also, if the high pressure line is leaking like happened to so many owners
>on this list, would these 2 hoses  be wet with oil all the time?  Where 
>else
>could I check to see if the high pressure line is leaking.  Where is the
>high pressure line?  The write up in the Tech Center wasn't much help.
>
>Thanks
>Darren
>92T 5-Speed White Package
>Canadian Model in Florida
>
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