[Supras] Fwd: Some new pictures of what is going on

Aaron Masciangelo supra_turbo at cox.net
Tue Jun 6 00:34:37 CDT 2006


Yeah, please don't confuse me with this guy, either.  My name is Aaron, too.

Aaron Masciangelo
89N/A <~~soon to be T

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Hansen" <shenku at gmail.com>
To: "Aaron Picker" <aaron.picker at gmail.com>
Cc: <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 1:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Supras] Fwd: Some new pictures of what is going on


> Poor form,
>
> This is not cool Aaron.  I hope no one confuses me with you.  Why don't 
> you
> go troll in the honda forums...
>
> Aaron Hansen
> 87T
>
> BTW Dean is right and you are in the wrong place if you think people here
> are going to think you're great for bashing the 7M.
>
>
>
> On 6/3/06, Aaron Picker <aaron.picker at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I mistakenly only sent this to the aoler rather than to the list.
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dm19959 at aol.com <Dm19959 at aol.com>
>> Date: Jun 3, 2006 7:50 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Supras] Some new pictures of what is going on
>> To: aaron.picker at gmail.com
>>
>> LOL, you are ignorant aren't you? You have NOT been replying to the list,
>> only to me individually. Your comment "Ninety-five of cars ever built do
>> not
>> come with factory and/or engineering defects" is incredibly humorous and
>> once again illustrates your lack of a grasp on reality.
>>
>> If you maintained your MKII or MKIII the way you construct emails and
>> respond to emails then it is obscenely obvious why you had so many
>> problems.
>>
>> I can go on as well but I choose not to as you are simply a bi-polar 
>> waste
>> of time.
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>>
>> LOL
>>
>> In a message dated 6/3/2006 3:25:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>> aaron.picker at gmail.com writes:
>>
>> On 6/2/06, Dm19959 at aol.com <Dm19959 at aol.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >    Never a blown head gasket with a cumulative total of over 500K 
>> > miles.
>> > Incredible POS? LOL, perhaps through your eyes.
>> >
>>
>> Everyone on the list who has had a mk3 for any amount of time knows that
>> it
>> is a project car.  It is a lemon, and it came from Toyota that way.
>>
>>   Perhaps your world is one with blinders on instead of "rose colored
>> > glasses". I own several different cars, not just Supras, and they all
>> have
>> > problems, new and old.
>> >
>>
>> Having blinders on is the same as viewing things through "rose colored
>> glasses", i.e. seeing the glass as half full when it is more than half
>> empty.  You must be really fucking dumb.  Perhaps you should try buying a
>> reliable car.  Most cars don't have any problems at all.
>>
>>
>>   Until a perfect machine is built problems will always be there though.
>> If
>> > you are simply going to continually bash the MKIII do not respond as I
>> have
>> > zero interest in hearing your comments.
>> >
>>
>> I chose to respond and to continue to bash the mk3 despite your advice.
>> Perfection in a car isn't a requirement in order for the car to live a
>> long
>> life with no problems by simply performing factory scheduled 
>> maintainance.
>> Ninety-five of cars ever built do not come with factory and/or 
>> engineering
>> defects.  I can probably continue this this thread as long as you like,
>> and
>> Rich probably does realize that you are making yourself look really 
>> stupid
>> (and therefore probably will allow you to continue doing so by letting 
>> the
>> thread live).
>>
>>     In a message dated 6/2/2006 7:12:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
>> > aaron.picker at gmail.com writes:
>> >
>> > On 6/2/06, Dm19959 at aol.com < Dm19959 at aol.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >    Horrendous lemon, hideous disaster? Nope, not at all. Every true
>> > > Supra person knows that there is an incredibly easy repair for the
>> 7M's
>> > > supposed "head gasket problem".
>> > >
>> >
>> > Yeah, it's called using another engine.  The mk3's aluminum head and
>> cast
>> > iron block are a recipe for disaster.  They expand and contract at
>> different
>> > rates, it's just that simple.  The retorque is a band-aid.  It treats
>> the
>> > symptoms without actually fixing the problem.  The 5m head on the 7m
>> short
>> > block might be a good workaround.
>> >
>> >     The MKIII is an incredibly well engineered machine.
>> > >
>> >
>> > It's an incredible piece of shit.  The mk3 is under-engineered, plain
>> and
>> > simple.  The mk4 is an incredibly well engineered machine, but it is an
>> ugly
>> > car (imho).
>> >
>> >     People who "buy in" to the head gasket issue should stay away from
>> > > cars all together as they will never be satisfied with any car 
>> > > because
>> of
>> > > the problems that easy and every model suffer from each and every
>> make.
>> > >
>> >
>> > The mk3 has problems that are all its own.  Very few (and I mean VERY
>> few)
>> > cars have as many problems as the mk3.  In order to keep a mk3 on the
>> road,
>> > "buying in" to the head gasket problem is a requirement.
>> >
>> >     I am going to assume that you do not own a MKIII and if you do then
>> > > there is a problem on your end as you should have never purchased one
>> if
>> > > you"know" all of your comments.
>> > >
>> >
>> > I have owned an 85 p-type and an 87 turbo.  I gave up on the mk3 
>> > several
>> > years ago.  I've never had so many problems with anything.  It was a 
>> > fun
>> > car, but it is a lemon, and that's about all there is to it.  Mk3 fans
>> seem
>> > to see (or try to see) the world with rose-colored glasses ( i.e. the
>> half
>> > full glass of water rather than the half empty one).
>> >
>> > Aaron
>> >
>> >
>> >
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