[Supras] Some new pictures of what is going on

Aaron Picker aaron.picker at gmail.com
Sat Jun 3 20:31:45 CDT 2006


Sorry for the previous empty post.

On 6/2/06, Dm19959 at aol.com <Dm19959 at aol.com> wrote:
>
>   Never a blown head gasket with a cumulative total of over 500K miles.
> Incredible POS? LOL, perhaps through your eyes.
>

Everyone on the list who has had a mk3 for any amount of time knows that it
is a project car.  It is a lemon, and it came from Toyota that way.

  Perhaps your world is one with blinders on instead of "rose colored
> glasses". I own several different cars, not just Supras, and they all have
> problems, new and old.
>

Having blinders on is the same as viewing things through "rose colored
glasses", i.e. seeing the glass as half full when it is more than half
empty.  You must be really fucking dumb.  Perhaps you should try buying a
reliable car.  Most cars don't have any problems at all.


  Until a perfect machine is built problems will always be there though. If
> you are simply going to continually bash the MKIII do not respond as I have
> zero interest in hearing your comments.
>

I chose to respond and to continue to bash the mk3 despite your advice.
Perfection in a car isn't a requirement in order for the car to live a long
life with no problems by simply performing factory scheduled maintainance.
Ninety-five of cars ever built do not come with factory and/or engineering
defects.  I can probably continue this this thread as long as you like, and
Rich probably does realize that you are making yourself look really stupid
(and therefore probably will allow you to continue doing so by letting the
thread live).


On 6/3/06, Aaron Picker <aaron.picker at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I mistakenly only sent this to the aoler rather than to the list.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Dm19959 at aol.com <Dm19959 at aol.com>
> Date: Jun 3, 2006 7:50 PM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] Some new pictures of what is going on
> To: aaron.picker at gmail.com
>
>  LOL, you are ignorant aren't you? You have NOT been replying to the list,
> only to me individually. Your comment "Ninety-five of cars ever built do not
> come with factory and/or engineering defects" is incredibly humorous and
> once again illustrates your lack of a grasp on reality.
>
> If you maintained your MKII or MKIII the way you construct emails and
> respond to emails then it is obscenely obvious why you had so many problems.
>
> I can go on as well but I choose not to as you are simply a bi-polar waste
> of time.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> LOL
>
> In a message dated 6/3/2006 3:25:57 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> aaron.picker at gmail.com writes:
>
> On 6/2/06, Dm19959 at aol.com < Dm19959 at aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >    Never a blown head gasket with a cumulative total of over 500K miles.
> > Incredible POS? LOL, perhaps through your eyes.
> >
>
> Everyone on the list who has had a mk3 for any amount of time knows that
> it is a project car.  It is a lemon, and it came from Toyota that way.
>
>     Perhaps your world is one with blinders on instead of "rose colored
> > glasses". I own several different cars, not just Supras, and they all have
> > problems, new and old.
> >
>
> Having blinders on is the same as viewing things through "rose colored
> glasses", i.e. seeing the glass as half full when it is more than half
> empty.  You must be really fucking dumb.  Perhaps you should try buying a
> reliable car.  Most cars don't have any problems at all.
>
>
>     Until a perfect machine is built problems will always be there though.
> > If you are simply going to continually bash the MKIII do not respond as I
> > have zero interest in hearing your comments.
> >
>
> I chose to respond and to continue to bash the mk3 despite your advice.
> Perfection in a car isn't a requirement in order for the car to live a long
> life with no problems by simply performing factory scheduled maintainance.
> Ninety-five of cars ever built do not come with factory and/or engineering
> defects.  I can probably continue this this thread as long as you like, and
> Rich probably does realize that you are making yourself look really stupid
> (and therefore probably will allow you to continue doing so by letting the
> thread live).
>
>       In a message dated 6/2/2006 7:12:58 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
> > aaron.picker at gmail.com writes:
> >
> >  On 6/2/06, Dm19959 at aol.com < Dm19959 at aol.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >     Horrendous lemon, hideous disaster? Nope, not at all. Every true
> > > Supra person knows that there is an incredibly easy repair for the 7M's
> > > supposed "head gasket problem".
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, it's called using another engine.  The mk3's aluminum head and
> > cast iron block are a recipe for disaster.  They expand and contract at
> > different rates, it's just that simple.  The retorque is a band-aid.  It
> > treats the symptoms without actually fixing the problem.  The 5m head on the
> > 7m short block might be a good workaround.
> >
> >      The MKIII is an incredibly well engineered machine.
> > >
> >
> > It's an incredible piece of shit.  The mk3 is under-engineered, plain
> > and simple.  The mk4 is an incredibly well engineered machine, but it is an
> > ugly car (imho).
> >
> >      People who "buy in" to the head gasket issue should stay away from
> > > cars all together as they will never be satisfied with any car because of
> > > the problems that easy and every model suffer from each and every make.
> > >
> >
> > The mk3 has problems that are all its own.  Very few (and I mean VERY
> > few) cars have as many problems as the mk3.  In order to keep a mk3 on the
> > road, "buying in" to the head gasket problem is a requirement.
> >
> >      I am going to assume that you do not own a MKIII and if you do then
> > > there is a problem on your end as you should have never purchased one if
> > > you"know" all of your comments.
> > >
> >
> > I have owned an 85 p-type and an 87 turbo.  I gave up on the mk3 several
> > years ago.  I've never had so many problems with anything.  It was a fun
> > car, but it is a lemon, and that's about all there is to it.  Mk3 fans seem
> > to see (or try to see) the world with rose-colored glasses ( i.e. the
> > half full glass of water rather than the half empty one).
> >
> > Aaron
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>


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