[Supras] Tokico struts

[C.A. Hintgen]

heh. yaw sensor? in the early '80s (when the MKIII was
designed...)? heck no! ;) the TEMS computer merely
looks @ throttle and steering angle....


adam h.

--- Brian Walker <Brian.Walker at timmons.com> wrote:

> Maybe yall have both wired the Tems controller to be
> able to set to
> firm. I have not done this, only comparing sport and
> normal. This would
> likely have more of a difference in feel, I'm not
> sure when/where on
> course my shocks set themselves to firm as it's
> throttle, speed and
> braking dependent. Actually, I guess it's level
> dependent using some
> sort of yaw sensor right?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: bonescom at bellsouth.net
> [mailto:bonescom at bellsouth.net] 
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:13 PM
> To: Lew Shaw; Brian Walker; Ed Di Cristofaro
> Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com; supras
> list
> Subject: Re: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> 
> Well, as I said, I've been running Tokicos with
> stock springs and I can
> tell a difference.
> 
> I can recall one time when my wife and I first
> started dating, she had
> momentarily sat her purse on the center console and
> switched the TEMS to
> firm without me knowing about.  We started driving
> down the highway and
> I could instantly tell something was different.  It
> took a few miles for
> me to think about the TEMS and realize it had been
> switched to firm.
> 
> Dana F
> > 
> > From: "Lew Shaw" <lewnjudy at qwest.net>
> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 02:05:49 EDT
> > To: "Brian Walker" <Brian.Walker at timmons.com>, 
> >   "Ed Di Cristofaro" <edicristofaro at gmail.com>,
> bonescom at bellsouth.net
> > CC: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>,
> sogi-tech at supracentral.com, 
> >   "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> > 
> > Strange, I have just the opposite situation.  TEMS
> with 
> > Eibachs and Tokikos all around and I notice a
> substantial 
> > difference between the settings.  The #3 setting
> will jar your 
> > teeth loose, but I don't scrape in dippy driveways
> and speed 
> > bumps.  For most spirited driving I use the #2
> setting.
> > Lew Shaw
> > '87 Turbo
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: Brian Walker
> >   To: Ed Di Cristofaro ; bonescom at bellsouth.net
> >   Cc: Jeff Mohler ; sogi-tech at supracentral.com ;
> supras list
> >   Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:45 AM
> >   Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> > 
> > 
> >   As far as mentioning of TEMS goes, I remember
> reading an 
> > article from when the mk3 was first being tested
> by magazine 
> > writers. They talked about the Tems function and
> how an early 
> > pre-production model had substantial difference in
> handling 
> > feel between the Tems settings. They mentioned
> that testing 
> > the production model didn't have a difference in
> feel.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I still have Tems working with Tokicos and can't
> tell much 
> > of a difference even during competition driving.
> I've noticed 
> > before that I had completed a run and forgot to
> set it to 
> > Sport, the following run wasn't noticeably
> different aside 
> > from the placebo effect. This is using a shorter
> spring with 
> > the Tokico so it could be that the effective range
> of the 
> > shock is not being noticed as much. When driving
> normally I 
> > can only feel a very slight difference in
> compression firmness 
> > between the settings.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
>
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> ------
> > 
> >   From: sogi-tech-owner at supracentral.com 
> > [mailto:sogi-tech-owner at supracentral.com] On
> Behalf Of Ed Di 
> > Cristofaro
> >   Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:28 PM
> >   To: bonescom at bellsouth.net
> >   Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com;
> supras list
> >   Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   My solution was to just get used ones from
> somebody who'd 
> > lowered their car.  A lot of list members run
> Eibach's, so 
> > they might have a set lying around if you ask
> nicely.  I think 
> > Elvis (thanks again, if you're still on the list!)
> sold me an 
> > old set for the cost of shipping a couple years
> back.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   I do have to say, my car with tokicos + stock
> springs is a 
> > lot better than it was with tokicos + h&r.  Plus
> now it 
> > doesn't scrape going over speed bumps, nor does it
> function as 
> > a snow plow.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >   On 8/17/06, bonescom at bellsouth.net
> <bonescom at bellsouth.net> 
> > wrote:
> > 
> >   I'm not sure if you were directing your
> questions to me or 
> > not, but I'll answer anyway.
> > 
> >   As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with the
> stock 
> > springs except, most likely, price.  If the price
> is good, 
> > I'll buy them.
> > 
> >   Running anything except TEMS shocks is out of
> the question 
> > for me.  The car came with it and I intend to keep
> it.  I just 
> > don't want to change what came with the car.
> > 
> >   Dana F
> >   >
> >   > From: "Jeff Mohler" <
> speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> >   > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 12:33:05 EDT
> >   > To: "bonescom at bellsouth.net" <
> bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> >   > CC: "Ed Di Cristofaro"
> <edicristofaro at gmail.com>,
> >   >       "sogi-tech at supracentral.com " 
> > <sogi-tech at supracentral.com>,
> >   >       "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
> >   > Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico
> struts
> >   >
> >   > Whats wrong with stock height stock springs,
> specifically?
> >   >
> >   > You can -not- find a higher spring rate than
> stock, 
> > believe it or not.
> >   >  Theyre actually pretty strong, just CRAP
> STRUTS..OEM and 
> > Tokico,
> >   > you'll stop missing TEMS once you experience a
> truly good 
> > strut on
> >   > your car.
> >   >
> >   > On 8/17/06, bonescom at bellsouth.net < 
> > bonescom at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> >   > > Well, I don't really have that much interest
> in lowering 
> > the car.  I had considered some of the aftermarket
> springs 
> 
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