[Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
Brian Walker
Brian.Walker at timmons.com
Thu Aug 17 14:57:25 CDT 2006
The reason I mentioned that is because I remember way back there was
some mod listed where you could wire the alarm to some sort of motion
sensor. This way if the car was jarred enough it would trigger the
alarm. I was thinking this sensor was part of the Tems system. Yaw
sensor isn't the correct term, I guess shock sensor might be.
-----Original Message-----
From: Lew Shaw [mailto:lewnjudy at qwest.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 3:51 PM
To: Brian Walker; bonescom at bellsouth.net; Ed Di Cristofaro
Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com; supras list
Subject: Re: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
I am not sure what inputs control the shock settings. It's been years
since
I installed everything, but I THINK it gets input from the brake light
circuit and possibly the main computer, but nothing as sophisticated as
a
yaw sensor.
Lew Shaw
'87 Turbo
----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Walker" <Brian.Walker at timmons.com>
To: <bonescom at bellsouth.net>; "Lew Shaw" <lewnjudy at qwest.net>; "Ed Di
Cristofaro" <edicristofaro at gmail.com>
Cc: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>;
<sogi-tech at supracentral.com>; "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 11:38 AM
Subject: RE: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
Maybe yall have both wired the Tems controller to be able to set to
firm. I have not done this, only comparing sport and normal. This would
likely have more of a difference in feel, I'm not sure when/where on
course my shocks set themselves to firm as it's throttle, speed and
braking dependent. Actually, I guess it's level dependent using some
sort of yaw sensor right?
-----Original Message-----
From: bonescom at bellsouth.net [mailto:bonescom at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:13 PM
To: Lew Shaw; Brian Walker; Ed Di Cristofaro
Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com; supras list
Subject: Re: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
Well, as I said, I've been running Tokicos with stock springs and I can
tell a difference.
I can recall one time when my wife and I first started dating, she had
momentarily sat her purse on the center console and switched the TEMS to
firm without me knowing about. We started driving down the highway and
I could instantly tell something was different. It took a few miles for
me to think about the TEMS and realize it had been switched to firm.
Dana F
>
> From: "Lew Shaw" <lewnjudy at qwest.net>
> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 02:05:49 EDT
> To: "Brian Walker" <Brian.Walker at timmons.com>,
> "Ed Di Cristofaro" <edicristofaro at gmail.com>,
bonescom at bellsouth.net
> CC: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>,
sogi-tech at supracentral.com,
> "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
>
> Strange, I have just the opposite situation. TEMS with
> Eibachs and Tokikos all around and I notice a substantial
> difference between the settings. The #3 setting will jar your
> teeth loose, but I don't scrape in dippy driveways and speed
> bumps. For most spirited driving I use the #2 setting.
> Lew Shaw
> '87 Turbo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Walker
> To: Ed Di Cristofaro ; bonescom at bellsouth.net
> Cc: Jeff Mohler ; sogi-tech at supracentral.com ; supras list
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
>
>
> As far as mentioning of TEMS goes, I remember reading an
> article from when the mk3 was first being tested by magazine
> writers. They talked about the Tems function and how an early
> pre-production model had substantial difference in handling
> feel between the Tems settings. They mentioned that testing
> the production model didn't have a difference in feel.
>
>
>
> I still have Tems working with Tokicos and can't tell much
> of a difference even during competition driving. I've noticed
> before that I had completed a run and forgot to set it to
> Sport, the following run wasn't noticeably different aside
> from the placebo effect. This is using a shorter spring with
> the Tokico so it could be that the effective range of the
> shock is not being noticed as much. When driving normally I
> can only feel a very slight difference in compression firmness
> between the settings.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> From: sogi-tech-owner at supracentral.com
> [mailto:sogi-tech-owner at supracentral.com] On Behalf Of Ed Di
> Cristofaro
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:28 PM
> To: bonescom at bellsouth.net
> Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com; supras list
> Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
>
>
>
> My solution was to just get used ones from somebody who'd
> lowered their car. A lot of list members run Eibach's, so
> they might have a set lying around if you ask nicely. I think
> Elvis (thanks again, if you're still on the list!) sold me an
> old set for the cost of shipping a couple years back.
>
>
>
> I do have to say, my car with tokicos + stock springs is a
> lot better than it was with tokicos + h&r. Plus now it
> doesn't scrape going over speed bumps, nor does it function as
> a snow plow.
>
>
>
> On 8/17/06, bonescom at bellsouth.net <bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if you were directing your questions to me or
> not, but I'll answer anyway.
>
> As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with the stock
> springs except, most likely, price. If the price is good,
> I'll buy them.
>
> Running anything except TEMS shocks is out of the question
> for me. The car came with it and I intend to keep it. I just
> don't want to change what came with the car.
>
> Dana F
> >
> > From: "Jeff Mohler" < speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 12:33:05 EDT
> > To: "bonescom at bellsouth.net" < bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> > CC: "Ed Di Cristofaro" <edicristofaro at gmail.com>,
> > "sogi-tech at supracentral.com "
> <sogi-tech at supracentral.com>,
> > "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> >
> > Whats wrong with stock height stock springs, specifically?
> >
> > You can -not- find a higher spring rate than stock,
> believe it or not.
> > Theyre actually pretty strong, just CRAP STRUTS..OEM and
> Tokico,
> > you'll stop missing TEMS once you experience a truly good
> strut on
> > your car.
> >
> > On 8/17/06, bonescom at bellsouth.net <
> bonescom at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > Well, I don't really have that much interest in lowering
> the car. I had considered some of the aftermarket springs
> only because of the lesser price than stock springs from the
> dealer. The lowering that they do would have just been gravy.
> > >
> > > If what you've heard is true, I would have no issue in
> getting aftermarket stock height springs...if they exist and
> are of decent quality.
> > >
> > > Dana F
> > > >
> > > > From: "Ed Di Cristofaro" < edicristofaro at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 09:45:58 EDT
> > > > To: "Dana Franklin" <bonescom at bellsouth.net >
> > > > CC: "supras list" <supras at supras.com>,
> > > > "sogi-tech at supracentral.com "
> <sogi-tech at supracentral.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> > > >
> > > > I destroyed a set of Tokicos, but I was using H&R
> springs. I still have
> > > > Tokicos on the front with OEM springs now, no problems
> at all.
> > > >
> > > > They're just not that tolerant to lowering is what
> I've heard.
> > > >
> > > > Wow, I haven't posted in a while...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/16/06, Dana Franklin <bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just read a thread from last month concerning the
> reliability of the
> > > > > Tokico struts. I purchased a set of these 8 years
> ago for TEMS. That
> > > > > was about 75K miles ago. I've had no problem until
> about 6 months ago.
> > > > > I have one that started leaking and is finally
> blown.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to replace the spings as well as the struts
> on all four
> > > > > corners. I don't race or anything and would like to
> keep the TEMS
> > > > > working. I assume the only other option I have is
> OEM struts, but I
> > > > > seem to recall those being stupid expensive!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any other suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dana Franklin a.k.a. "Bones" 87T
> > > > >
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> > > > >
> > > > >
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