[Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
Brian Walker
Brian.Walker at timmons.com
Thu Aug 17 13:38:52 CDT 2006
Maybe yall have both wired the Tems controller to be able to set to
firm. I have not done this, only comparing sport and normal. This would
likely have more of a difference in feel, I'm not sure when/where on
course my shocks set themselves to firm as it's throttle, speed and
braking dependent. Actually, I guess it's level dependent using some
sort of yaw sensor right?
-----Original Message-----
From: bonescom at bellsouth.net [mailto:bonescom at bellsouth.net]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 2:13 PM
To: Lew Shaw; Brian Walker; Ed Di Cristofaro
Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com; supras list
Subject: Re: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
Well, as I said, I've been running Tokicos with stock springs and I can
tell a difference.
I can recall one time when my wife and I first started dating, she had
momentarily sat her purse on the center console and switched the TEMS to
firm without me knowing about. We started driving down the highway and
I could instantly tell something was different. It took a few miles for
me to think about the TEMS and realize it had been switched to firm.
Dana F
>
> From: "Lew Shaw" <lewnjudy at qwest.net>
> Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 02:05:49 EDT
> To: "Brian Walker" <Brian.Walker at timmons.com>,
> "Ed Di Cristofaro" <edicristofaro at gmail.com>,
bonescom at bellsouth.net
> CC: "Jeff Mohler" <speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>,
sogi-tech at supracentral.com,
> "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
> Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
>
> Strange, I have just the opposite situation. TEMS with
> Eibachs and Tokikos all around and I notice a substantial
> difference between the settings. The #3 setting will jar your
> teeth loose, but I don't scrape in dippy driveways and speed
> bumps. For most spirited driving I use the #2 setting.
> Lew Shaw
> '87 Turbo
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brian Walker
> To: Ed Di Cristofaro ; bonescom at bellsouth.net
> Cc: Jeff Mohler ; sogi-tech at supracentral.com ; supras list
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 10:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
>
>
> As far as mentioning of TEMS goes, I remember reading an
> article from when the mk3 was first being tested by magazine
> writers. They talked about the Tems function and how an early
> pre-production model had substantial difference in handling
> feel between the Tems settings. They mentioned that testing
> the production model didn't have a difference in feel.
>
>
>
> I still have Tems working with Tokicos and can't tell much
> of a difference even during competition driving. I've noticed
> before that I had completed a run and forgot to set it to
> Sport, the following run wasn't noticeably different aside
> from the placebo effect. This is using a shorter spring with
> the Tokico so it could be that the effective range of the
> shock is not being noticed as much. When driving normally I
> can only feel a very slight difference in compression firmness
> between the settings.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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>
> From: sogi-tech-owner at supracentral.com
> [mailto:sogi-tech-owner at supracentral.com] On Behalf Of Ed Di
> Cristofaro
> Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:28 PM
> To: bonescom at bellsouth.net
> Cc: Jeff Mohler; sogi-tech at supracentral.com; supras list
> Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
>
>
>
> My solution was to just get used ones from somebody who'd
> lowered their car. A lot of list members run Eibach's, so
> they might have a set lying around if you ask nicely. I think
> Elvis (thanks again, if you're still on the list!) sold me an
> old set for the cost of shipping a couple years back.
>
>
>
> I do have to say, my car with tokicos + stock springs is a
> lot better than it was with tokicos + h&r. Plus now it
> doesn't scrape going over speed bumps, nor does it function as
> a snow plow.
>
>
>
> On 8/17/06, bonescom at bellsouth.net <bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure if you were directing your questions to me or
> not, but I'll answer anyway.
>
> As far as I know, there's nothing wrong with the stock
> springs except, most likely, price. If the price is good,
> I'll buy them.
>
> Running anything except TEMS shocks is out of the question
> for me. The car came with it and I intend to keep it. I just
> don't want to change what came with the car.
>
> Dana F
> >
> > From: "Jeff Mohler" < speedtoys.racing at gmail.com>
> > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu PM 12:33:05 EDT
> > To: "bonescom at bellsouth.net" < bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> > CC: "Ed Di Cristofaro" <edicristofaro at gmail.com>,
> > "sogi-tech at supracentral.com "
> <sogi-tech at supracentral.com>,
> > "supras list" <supras at supras.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Supras] [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> >
> > Whats wrong with stock height stock springs, specifically?
> >
> > You can -not- find a higher spring rate than stock,
> believe it or not.
> > Theyre actually pretty strong, just CRAP STRUTS..OEM and
> Tokico,
> > you'll stop missing TEMS once you experience a truly good
> strut on
> > your car.
> >
> > On 8/17/06, bonescom at bellsouth.net <
> bonescom at bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > Well, I don't really have that much interest in lowering
> the car. I had considered some of the aftermarket springs
> only because of the lesser price than stock springs from the
> dealer. The lowering that they do would have just been gravy.
> > >
> > > If what you've heard is true, I would have no issue in
> getting aftermarket stock height springs...if they exist and
> are of decent quality.
> > >
> > > Dana F
> > > >
> > > > From: "Ed Di Cristofaro" < edicristofaro at gmail.com>
> > > > Date: 2006/08/17 Thu AM 09:45:58 EDT
> > > > To: "Dana Franklin" <bonescom at bellsouth.net >
> > > > CC: "supras list" <supras at supras.com>,
> > > > "sogi-tech at supracentral.com "
> <sogi-tech at supracentral.com>
> > > > Subject: Re: [SOGI-TECH] Tokico struts
> > > >
> > > > I destroyed a set of Tokicos, but I was using H&R
> springs. I still have
> > > > Tokicos on the front with OEM springs now, no problems
> at all.
> > > >
> > > > They're just not that tolerant to lowering is what
> I've heard.
> > > >
> > > > Wow, I haven't posted in a while...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/16/06, Dana Franklin <bonescom at bellsouth.net>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I just read a thread from last month concerning the
> reliability of the
> > > > > Tokico struts. I purchased a set of these 8 years
> ago for TEMS. That
> > > > > was about 75K miles ago. I've had no problem until
> about 6 months ago.
> > > > > I have one that started leaking and is finally
> blown.
> > > > >
> > > > > I'd like to replace the spings as well as the struts
> on all four
> > > > > corners. I don't race or anything and would like to
> keep the TEMS
> > > > > working. I assume the only other option I have is
> OEM struts, but I
> > > > > seem to recall those being stupid expensive!
> > > > >
> > > > > Any other suggestions?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Dana Franklin a.k.a. "Bones" 87T
> > > > >
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> > > > >
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> Ed
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