[Supras] Emissions failure
Sean Cavanaugh
millenia2000 at hotmail.com
Mon Aug 7 11:31:28 CDT 2006
in MD, the waiver is 400 PER emmisions testing year. meaning every 2 years,
you gotta shell out another 400 in repairs to get another waiver.
my friends going on his 3rd time of having to get a waiver.
-Sean
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Jobe" <jjobe2 at supratech.org>
To: "Gregg Bradstock" <sleekster96 at hotmail.com>
Cc: <Supras at supras.com>; <Suprarossa at aol.com>
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Supras] Emissions failure
>
> Sounds similar to what Ohio used to have.
>
> waiver $300-400
>
> qualifications to run a car: HS diploma and drivers license - one worker
> waived the mirror under the passenger side of my brother's 911 then
> checked off the catalytic converter. I'm not sure what he saw as it's
> almost completely flat.
>
> worker usually shifted too early, too high of a gear for a given
> road speed causing the engine to lug
>
> workers usually looked and smelled nasty - no way I want that in my
> car
>
> workers usually felt compelled to put a paper on your sheet metal or
> glass and write on it with a ball point pen while recording VIN
>
> workers usually assume they know your car better than you - they
> destroyed the viscous coupling, transfer case, and transmission on
> my AWD DSM (no that sticker isn't fake). I ran out of the booth and
> had to yell at the worker no less than three times! $1700 in repairs
> billed to E-Check.
>
> Some history:
>
> Originally all cars tested every two years, $19.50 fee. Odd years
> required
> testing in odd years, even during even years. Excludes first registration
> on new cars. Title transfers require testing too, meaning if you bought
> a used '99 in '00 you would have to have it tested.
>
> Originally the test included road speeds up to 55 mph and very tight
> standards. Many low mileage 1-2 yr old cars failed. They loosened up the
> standards and added the 2 year exemption on new cars for the first owner.
> Many people complained and I guess there were enough problems that they
> lowered the road speed to 25mph.
>
> Finally!, the state admitted it cost too much money to maintain the
> program
> and that only one county in the state truly needed emissions testing so
> they let the 10 year contract expire and that one county is doing their
> own testing.
>
> Ways to get around it:
>
> AWD car
>
> Ignorance with a 4WD, claim that it will damage the drivetrain even in 2WD
> (works well with electronic shift 4WD)
>
> Extremely lowered or low body work
>
> BTW, if you guys are stuck with the gas cap test too keep a spare with
> you.
> Easier to spend a few bucks on a gas cap than have to waste your time
> going
> back for a retest.
>
> On Mon, Aug 07, 2006 at 07:01:15AM -0400, Gregg Bradstock wrote:
>> I thought it was $550, maybe b/c mine is an 87. Redoing the engine, just
>> labor costs where at least double that so I got a waiver. Even in the
>> stupid glass enclosure, I could hear the engine lugging and saw way jerky
>> shifting.
>>
>> So lowering the car will prevent the dyno hook-up? I might consider
>> that.
>>
>> Gregg
>> 87 NA also in Maryland
>
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